T/S: John Hughes vs. Judd Apatow

Brokeback Bueller

lol

guys guys guys Bueller has already totally gay-ed it up as Harvey Feierstein

that movie is so gay.

gayer than making out with Paul Rudd

xposts okay, so maybe I've just fallen into a Denby trap of thinking there's a real contemporary problem with female characterization.

Where does Mean Girls go in this arrangement?

not a romcom

I mean in the Apatow/Hughes debate abt teen movies.

(idealization of suburbs and corresponding fear of urban-dwelling minorities/homeless, loads of mindless conspicuous consumption, etc etc)

Where were middle-class white teenagers supposed to escape other than to the city? It's a practical place for adventure and danger (and thus easy fodder for a film plot). Do you think fear of inner-city crime was something Reagan created? As crime grew worse since the 1960s people moved out and became afraid of going there. Surprise!

And how was the mindless consumption of the 1980s any worse than what occurred int he 1960s and 1970s? I'll tell you why it was worse, because Reagan was president when it happened. (He should've used his satanic powers for good and stopped it, right?)

what the fuck are any of you talking about?

who knows, more rudd pix plz

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stupid 80s pop culture being "reaganite" = god can we please retire this uber-boring critical trope PLEASE

someone should write an article on how harold lloyd movies are reflective of the intellectual shallowness and corrupt pursuit of self-interest of the warren g. harding years.

I wonder if twenty years from now we'll be talking about how "Superbad" was all about the Iraq war and the reason the two boy's friendship was straining in the movie was because they were worried about Iran getting the bomb or the possibility of a draft. Don't look at the superficialities of the plot! It's about Bush pulling their innocent world apart!

Plz to reread thread for the specific context in which I wrote "Reaganism."

someone should write an article on how harold lloyd movies are reflective of the intellectual shallowness and corrupt pursuit of self-interest of the warren g. harding years

Hasn't this been done already?

"Relax....You folks have nothing to worry about....I'm a professional"

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And how was the mindless consumption of the 1980s any worse than what occurred int he 1960s and 1970s?

Let me try this, briefly... The difference is the '80s is when conglomerates and bizmen who had not MADE THEIR CAREERS IN THE FILM BIZ began controlling the studios and what did or didn't get made. Which is why you get fewer Altmans, Rafelsons etc being greenlighted for anything at the margins of the studio system.

Reagan and mindlessness as the paramount value in mainstream entertainment are both SYMPTOMS of (de facto) unregulated capitalism; one didn't cause the other.

Again, as Jack Nicholson said at a Bueller premiere he attended: "These people are trying to kill me."

I would really enjoy seeing a full-on bromantic comedy about how two adult men become friends!

Only tangentially to the point, nabisco: One of the gay NYC weekies is comparing the 'bromance' in Superbad to Midnight Cowboy.

^weeklies

oh i see, it was conglomerates and bizmen driving everything in the 80s, and not the mass cultural backlash against the 70s, something that the kids of the 80s were raised into and then sought to get out from under (LIKE OH SAY IN THE CINEMA OF JOHN HUGHES).

I'm sure infantile 70s cowboy/lone ranger Jack's a much nicer guy than buttoned-up 80s family man (oh no, "family"!) Matthew Broderick

those Altmans and Rafelsons, they respect the women, I tells ya

Biden-fan gabbneb characteristically obtuse about '80s capitalist ethos and backlash vs counterculture being related.

Reagan and mindlessness as the paramount value in mainstream entertainment are both SYMPTOMS of (de facto) unregulated capitalism; one didn't cause the other.

how do you explain Forrest Gump?

no, see i get which way they're related - backlash ridden by deregulators rather than deregulators somehow having diktat-like impact on mass culture

he doesn't understand forrest gump any better than he understands ferris bueller

In what context, kenan? I've never seen Gump and have no desire to.

(but I also find Clinton to be the most Reaganesque of RWR's successors)

xpost It's psychological horror.

Yesterday morning it was a perfectly decent thread. Now look at it.

it all comes down to "liberal" gabbneb's cognitive dissonance about his love for an ostensibly conservative film

<A href=http://www.cinematical.com/2007/08/22/could-a-ferris-bueller-sequel-be-on-the-way/>;Bueller SEQUEL?!?</a>

that was discussed upthread (highly unlikely, to say the least)

i have less than zero invested in ferris bueller

i just like to point out mormonism

i spose i shouldn't waste my time on the easy stuff tho

hey there's no mormons in Less Than Zero!

this thread was insane, just insane