2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

omg!

for a moment I thought he'd returned:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13955/13955-h/images/006.jpg

apropos of nothing, I was surprised to learn that my in-law in the secret service (served in Bosnia, spent several years doing security detail for Condi and other state dept officials, currently serving a volunteered tour of duty in Iraq) is for Obama. He was very excited when Obama visited Iraq and he got to be on his security team.

and not only that but he had "been a big fan of his since he was in the state senate"

get that man on television!

The idea is literally that lower taxes equals more tax revenue for the government.

That should be the idea, but the focus tends to be on the idea that higher tax equals less revenue for everybody everywhere, which is hysterical. Supply-siders tend to always talk about tax like it's nailed at the 100% end of the curve, when in fact the tax rate is almost always lower than even Mr. Laffer would recommend as optimal. But he was wrong, anyway. People don't stop working and innovating and driving the economy because you tax them. They only to that if you oppress them.

yeah, yeah, I know... Americans don't know the difference.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/19/marist_ohio_tied_obama_leads_in_michigan_pennsylvania.html

The news that Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will finally give her first television interview since John McCain tapped her as his running mate over a week ago has prompted many to ask, "What questions would you ask Sarah Palin?"

I would ask Gov. Palin, "Exactly how will you work across party lines and with our global allies to address the growing MILF problem?"

I would then ask her if she knows that the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) is the largest Muslim rebel group in the southern Philippines and that members of the MILF help train Indonesians connected to Jema'ah Islamiah (JI), the group accused of carrying out the 2002 Bali bombing.

And that over 1,000 US troops are currently in the southern Philippines for military exercises.

I have never believed MI would go for McCain. xp

IN THE BAG!

Ok buying a t-shirt on the internet is lame, I know this, but still.

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_2017_199542751

who the hell is that?

airbrushed at the fulton mall?

That's Obama if he were part of the JLA and drawn by Alex Ross.

I like the black velvet painting vibe. Though it's still not as good as

http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/05/obama420.jpg

that football poll matches what I predicted as the final popular vote

trackers
Gallup - 49-44
R2000 - 49-42
Rasmussen - 48-48

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/19/palins_favorability_ratings_tumble.html

http://www.faithmouse.com/obama_victory_unicorn.jpg

it's really annoying that "election" isn't in this thread title btw

CQ's Map

Tossups: CO, FL, NH, NM, NV, OH
Lean McCain: AR, MO, VA, WV
Lean Obama: IA, MI, MN, PA, WI
McCain-Favored: AZ, GA, IN, LA, MT, NC, TN

Symmetry required gabbneb to start this, xp

I'm not sure about Florida.

the much-vaunted migration of Cubans over to the Dems' camp probably won't happen.

no one is, xp

vaunted by whom?

Obama may be running closer to Gore than Kerry in Central FL

vaunted by whom?

Every two months the NYT and Miami Herald run stories about the "evolution" of the Cuban vote.

Right, I gather it's the "I-4" corridor where McCain is lagging. Does that include St Pete?

the vote can evolve and still be won by the GOP

Diageo: Obama 45-44

Indiana (Rasmussen): McCain 49-47

what the fuck?

rove

Sounds like a Fred Phelps thing to me.

Central FL is apparently where the big non-cuban hispanic growth is

the Disney vote.

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/1/0/4/16854010-16854014-slarge.jpg

http://democraciausa.org/en/releases/democracia_usa_launches_2008_central_florida_hispanic_voter_project/

I saw similar protesters at another obama speech, they didn't seem to have a very clear idea of what they were talking about. they started protesting, got shouted down, and obama quieted everyone down and let them ask a question. they asked why he didn't do anything for blacks and was silent about katrina and he then kindly, methodically tore their question to shreds.

Haha, nice. How did they react?

they just went silent. I saw this on youtube about a month ago. they were barely able to ask the question they claimed to have which made me think they'd been placed there by someone.

I grew up in central Florida (Boca Ciega Bay represent) but I've been gone for 20 years now; when I lived there it was demographically like Michigan, but way older.

http://michaelwarns.com/

Also this: http://www.michaeldefeatssatan.com/

When America gave women the right to vote. How? Because they out number men 40 to 1

Kinda neat:

http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php

A queer lefty gives up on the Dems:

http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20127506

In Election 2008, the Democrats are almost more Republican than the Republicans I wouldn't vote for in '88 or '92, '96, '00, or '04.

They are promising, for example, to dump way more money than Bush into faith-based programs that will not only erode the church-state divide, but strengthen anti-choice, anti-gay forces. In a careful and deliberate campaign strategy to court conservatives, LGBT folk have already been shoved to the back of the bus in favor of highlighting homo-hating evangelicals. Positive statements about abortion have reportedly been withdrawn from the websites of many Democratic candidates....

I quit. As they say, "If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." And sometimes less.

I can't be blackmailed any more that a certain candidate will spell the actual end of the world. Admit it. The Bush administration wouldn't have been so destructive if not for the Congress members of both parties that were complicit at every step. And two years ago, when Democrats claimed the majority in both Houses, they could have brought the Bush administration to a complete standstill. The Republicans did it to Bill Clinton. But with the Democrats, it was pretty much business for Bush as usual.

We'll only get more of the same if we continue to vote for them, however reluctantly.

Well that's a moronic attitude.

They are promising, for example, to dump way more money than Bush into faith-based programs that will not only erode the church-state divide, but strengthen anti-choice, anti-gay forces

link?

there isn't one.