RIP Neil Armstrong

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How much better the world would be if ideological competition between nations was fought solely through space races and not wars.

for real. <3

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 August 2012 05:56 (eleven years ago) link

It's cool that someone just went somewhere, picked up some souvenirs, freestyled some poetry, and came back. The whole event is like performance art. And the economic benefits were not too shabby either:

A November 1971 study of NASA released by the Midwest Research Institute of Kansas City, Missouri concluded that the $25 billion in 1958 dollars spent on civilian space R & D during the 1958-1969 period has returned $52 billion through 1971 -- and will continue to produce pay offs through 1987, at which time the total pay off will have been $181 billion. The discounted rate of return for this investment will have been 33 percent.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA

That is over $300 billion in 2012 dollars, and that is without exploiting anything other than the spectacle.

And if you think it's fake, then you believe the U.S. government spent the modern equivalent of $1.7 billion dollars on an art film watched simultaneously by 500 million people.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 26 August 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

Creating an account requires less personal info than Facebook.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:07 (eleven years ago) link

"signatures needed by September 24" - isn't a funeral usually a bit sooner?

StanM, Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:16 (eleven years ago) link

many xposts, but yes, i meant the moonshot by dan parry.

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:29 (eleven years ago) link

Dutch Newspaper De Telegraaf broke the news on their site like this: ("first man on earth dead")

http://i49.tinypic.com/rm360i.jpg

StanM, Sunday, 26 August 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

matt p think you're still in need of a few more "truthful zings"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 26 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

For All Mankind (1989), streaming on Hulu

The best documentary, ever, about the experience of the Apollo crews. With an oft quoted Brian Eno/Daniel Lanois soundtrack.

Watching it with some tears.

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

oh that's a good one

the late great, Sunday, 26 August 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

damn I need to see that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 August 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

It is spectacular.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 August 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

a moonship journey, if you will

― the late great, Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

nice.

Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 26 August 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

;-)

the late great, Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

now, for the other view

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2009/07/53-space-exploration.html

the late great, Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if this is hard-trolling or not but in honor of matt p ...

the late great, Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not so sure we even deserve a space program.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

One thing the obits have brought home for me is that there isn't a really great iconic picture of Armstrong on the surface of the moon because the great famous shots were taken by Armstrong of Aldrin. But this Reddit post claiming to be from the head of press relations for the mission says that the famous photo of an astronaut saluting the flag was misattributed and is actually of Armstrong.

So I've spent ten minutes staring at the photos trying to match up any distinguishing features of the suits or the patterns of moon dust on them to work out if this might be true, until finally it hit me: wow, these are people, on the moon, with MOON DUST up their legs. And this was too overwhelmingly immense and awesome to continue with my nitpicking investigation.

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

sort of a half-baked blog post linked there but wow, i never knew about that editorial(?) from the NYT in 1969:

For all his resplendent glory as he steps forth on another planet, man is still a pathetic creature, able to master outer space and yet unable to control his inner self; able to conquer new worlds yet unable to live in peace on this one, able to create miracles of science and yet unable properly to house and clothe and feed all his fellow men, able eventually to colonize an alien and hostile environment and yet increasingly unable to come to terms with the nurturing environment that is his home.

mellow, groovy, chilled out, cool (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 August 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

Aldrin:

I am very saddened to learn of the passing of Neil Armstrong today. Neil and I trained together as technical partners but were also good friends who will always be connected through our participation in the mission of Apollo 11. Whenever I look at the moon it reminds me of the moment over four decades ago when I realized that even though we were farther away from earth than two humans had ever been, we were not alone. Virtually the entire world took that memorable journey with us. I know I am joined by millions of others in mourning the passing of a true American hero and the best pilot I ever knew. My friend Neil took the small step but giant leap that changed the world and will forever be remembered as a landmark moment in human history.

Brad C., Sunday, 26 August 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

Higgledy-piggledy
Armstrong the astronaut
rode in a rocket ship
up to the moon.

"Not made of cheese," said the
Wapakonetian.
"Sounds kind of crazy, but
it’s a balloon."

― weatheringdaleson, Friday, September 14, 2007 7:45 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RIP

tripjohnhafner (weatheringdaleson), Monday, 27 August 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link

I remember the Moon Shot miniseries on TNT, I think. Barry Corbin narrated it, and they cut back & forth from archival footage to present day interviews. I remember Gene Kranz breaking down on camera and being comforted by the offscreen interviewer when recounting the Apollo 13 rescue efforts.

Heh; I'm just now remembering that my gifted class teacher got me out of school one day in 5th grade to go see Jim Lovell speak in Flint, MI.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Monday, 27 August 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

HE TOOK THEREMIN MUSIC INTO SPACE. WHAT A DUDE.

http://www.overgrownpath.com/2006/03/neil-armstrong-finally-reveals-his.html

emil.y, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Woah

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, I have that Dr Samuel Hoffman collection!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

sort of a half-baked blog post linked there but wow, i never knew about that editorial(?) from the NYT in 1969:

For all his resplendent glory as he steps forth on another planet, man is still a pathetic creature, able to master outer space and yet unable to control his inner self; able to conquer new worlds yet unable to live in peace on this one, able to create miracles of science and yet unable properly to house and clothe and feed all his fellow men, able eventually to colonize an alien and hostile environment and yet increasingly unable to come to terms with the nurturing environment that is his home.

The very first "if they can put a man on the moon, why can't they . . ." I guess.

Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's a little more of a ... "let's take this moment to reflect on how great we can be, and try to bring that greatness to our efforts at home"

the late great, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

LBJ called that The Great Society program, which actually worked much better than the conservative propaganda would have us believe. Unfortunately, in order to sell the idea, the liberals overpromised on the results.

Aimless, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, I have that Dr Samuel Hoffman collection!

Me too!

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

0 of 57 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars No Man has ever Walked on the Moon, January 16, 2012
By iruri - See all my reviews
This review is from: A Man on the Moon: The Voyages of the Apollo Astronauts (Paperback)
I won't be reading this book. It is based on a Real Moon Landing, therefore I will not be reading a book touted as Real based on a Pack of Lies.

POLLed Turkey Has Got Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

carlos ‏@famouscrab
i think when they were maybe reading the resumes for apolo 11 they didnt even get past the names. BUZZ? MAN WITH STRONG ARM? F*KIN SWEET

jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Friday, 31 August 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...
three months pass...

Read a whole bunch of books about the Apollo program because of this thread and a few more are still waiting.

Albee Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

what did you read? recommendations plz

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

(xp)That was awesome. Thanks, Chris.

After the good book with the title Moonshot, the one by Dan Parry, I read Moondust, by Andrew Smith, where he interviews all the surviving moonwalkers and tries to find out what it was like- rave review from Arthur C. Clarke and J. G. Ballard! Then Andrew Chaikin's A Man On The Moon, which is kind of a standard work that narrates all the Apollo missions which, although it has its longueurs when they are on the ground, does a really good job once they are in flight. Then the most excellent How Apollo Flew to the Moon, by W. David Woods, which goes into as much technical as you could want without reading the actual NASA manuals. Paged through Al Worden's Falling to Earth, saving up Mike Collin's Carrying The Fire, which is supposed to be the best of the "nose cone histories."

Albee Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

Mike Collins. Lately my apostrophes have started floating in microgravity.

Albee Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

Did not read Gene Cernan's book or Chris Kraft's, nor Deke!, although the last is supposed to be pretty good. Nor 2012's Forever Young.

Also, please feel free to help answer this important question if you can: Apollo 8 anniversary RFI: which astronaut brought along "Sleepwalk" on his spaceman Walkman?.

Albee Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...

*Bump* to RIP the Last Man, Gene Cernan.

Moog and Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 01:07 (seven years ago) link

Rip lance armstrong, inventor of the trumpet

Treeship, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 01:20 (seven years ago) link


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