yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive
― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
that JV interview is fantastic
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
there is nothing sad and everything hilarious about lance armstrong being stripped of 7 tour titles imo.
― omar little, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know how i'll feel when my ipod tells me "i'm lance armstrong and that was your longest run yet!". ha!
― jed_, Friday, 24 August 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 11:19 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 11:19 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cathy LeMond Tweeted one word: "Finally"
yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't know why it is sad that this will destroy lance's reputation, he was cheat in an era of cheats and his rubber band racket cancer "charity" is a self aggrandising sham. I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Betsy Andreu was much less circumspect
http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2012/08/24/betsy-andreu-lance-armstrong-a-ramene-le-sport-a-l-epoque-de-la-rda_1751099_3242.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
"yeah I'm fine if regular idiots stop following it and join yr club"
if regular idiots stopped following baseball there wouldn't be a baseball. or a football. or a basketball. or a hockey.
― scott seward, Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah and i'm pretty sure as long as there are ways to cheat there will be ways to get around the testing somehow. and i feel like he's been using the charity as a reputation shield in recent years.
― omar little, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
"I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse "
this will happen within a couple of weeks, i imagine?
― jed_, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-retains-support-of-nike-and-other-companies.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i dunno -- i've a sense that stripping him many years later when he hasn't admitted anything won't sway the non-cycling public all that much.
if ppl liked him (like andy pettitte) they'll continue to; if ppl hated him (like barry bonds) they'll continue to.
i imagine that most americans are like, dude won a really hard foreign commie sport a bunch of times where everyone else was doping too -- big deal
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
fuck him if he can't be bothered to show up in court anymore, not the type of petulant quitter move i expect from a man who can beat testicle cancer and the alps five times.
well, he'll always have LIVESTRONG and anna's teat to comfort himself on
― the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGtfpzT4Lqw
― buzza, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
snap
― the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link
rip juan pelota
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://cavalierfc.tumblr.com/post/30172302298/its-not-about-the-bike
― I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Good history in podcast form
http://velocastcc.squarespace.com/race-radio/2012/8/27/lance-armstrong-special-edition.html
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
why do people hate him again? what's this 'cartel' ish
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
read that link, it's right there
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
(a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 24, 2012 11:54 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know right, you dont see baseball players all sleeping between games and shit
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for that Balls, Wheels, Doping article.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.
They still sponsor Tiger Woods? Nike doesn't have a problem with sketchy people if they think they're still capable of generating them some cash.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
i bood lance when he ran the ny marathon B-)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Nike doesn't have a problem with sketchy people if they think they're still capable of generating them some cash.
^substitute any corporation for Nike above.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
i think nike ENJOYS promoting reviled/disgraced mega-athletes
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
they prob consider it an engaging challenge for their marketing apparatus
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
like whats exactly the right tone for his comeback ad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
GOD JUICED
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
juiced god
― the late great, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
I agree, I think that's part of their branding -- I don't know if that's supposed to make them look "edgier" or what.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
God Does Play Juice
#Nike #Juice
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
black and white footage, lance riding his bike on a drizzly day through (let's say) san francisco, getting a lot of evil eyes from people. no VO, just echo-laden snippets of commenters talking about him being a fraud, how he could never have won the tour w/o cheating, etc. lance turns a corner and before him is california street, leading up to nob hill. one of the steepest streets in the city. lance grits his teeth and begins riding up as the voices all blur together and people walking past stop and stare. as he gets higher, people begin to cheer. eventually he gets to the top and turns around to look back at the city for a moment before riding on. "WINNERS NEVER QUIT"
black
nike swirl
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
he wore those black pants to conceal shamefyull buttock sweat!
― Sweet Yin Yang ☯ (Latham Green), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
soundtrack would be clams casino motivation beat
― the late great, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
thank you juiced god
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
beginning of this thread is p comic in hindsight. nathalie was otm.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/08/but-everybodys-doing-it-lance-armstrong-and-the-philosophy-of-making-bad-decisions/261669/
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
I really wanted to continue my boycott of Nike after their support of Paterno and Vick, but goddamn i tried out one of their 3-Woods and all of my principles vanished. Shitty shoes though, i'll still stay away from those.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
Dont really give a shit about Armstrong (everybody in that sport seems to be juicing, so is it really cheating) or Woods (that shit's between him and his ex).
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
black and white footage, lance riding his bike on a drizzly day through (let's say) san francisco, getting a lot of evil eyes from people. no VO, just echo-laden snippets of commenters talking about him being a fraud, how he could never have won the tour w/o cheating, etc. lance turns a corner and before him is california street, leading up to nob hill. one of the steepest streets in the city. lance grits his teeth and begins riding up as the voices all blur together and people walking past stop and stare. as he gets higher, people begin to cheer. eventually he gets to the top and turns around to look back at the city for a moment before riding on. "WINNERS NEVER QUIT"blacknike swirl― omar little, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:48 PM (47 minutes ago)
― omar little, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:48 PM (47 minutes ago)
There once existed footage of Lance with semi-liquid diarrhea* streaming out of his shorts at the 2001 San Francisco Gran Prix while he was getting dropped on the Fillmore St. climb before abandoning the race, but after a couple quasi-SFW searches, I don't think it's up anymore.
*G-I distress is an unfortunate byproduct of blood doping.
― lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
To be fair, GI distress is also an unfortunate byproduct of intense physical exertion.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.
I think he did give an opinion some time ago but was threatened by Armstrong to shut up?
Anyway I never liked the guy so quite happy he got his comeuppance (?).
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I think if Armstrong was a mere cheater it would be different but for years he's been on that "snitches get stitches" vendetta
― omar little, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
^^^p much
― catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
also his whole carefully crafted heroic persona is so repulsive
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
My neighbour (who shares my hatred of all things Lance) said that he didn't have the build to be a climber, yet he managed to be the fastest climber during one particular tour. Can anyone say this is true (or false)?
Also, I hate this whole "everyone cheats" defense line.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
And yes the whole heroic persona is indeed vomit inducing.
"everyone cheats" = why the int'l pro level of the sport fucking sucks
― the late great, Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
I agree. It sucks the joy out of watching it tbh. But I still hate when people use it as an excuse (for Lance or any other top cyclist).
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link