right that brand of IF is identified with that leangains guy nowadays at least with strength conditioning messageboard people
― dylannn, Friday, 24 August 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
cool program because it's just so simple to follow and you immediately remove thinkijng about feeding yourself from most of the day's thoughtprocessing. but i think a lot of what he has to say might qualify as "broscience" and most of the benefit is just hard to eat calories over maint in a small window especially on lowcarb whole foods
― dylannn, Friday, 24 August 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
coconut milk, yea or nay? it's obv fatty, but my research is conflicted about whether even a reduced fat version is good/bad.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
this is the wrong thread to say "it's delicious, fuck it" i guess
― syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
further research is suggesting yea
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
There aren't many good scientific studiess on dietary coconut milk or oil and human health. Some finds from pubmed:
Here's a fairly positive and likely biased review article, which primarily notes the antimicrobial and antioxidant benefits of coconut. But many of the reviewed articles are in vitro or for topical use, with few good human/animal dietary studies.
Coconut oil and palm oil increase HDL-C (good) cholesterol compared to lard
On the other hand:
High coconut oil diets without excess calories induce artherosclerosis in rabbits. There are actually quite a few studies in which rodent heart disease is induced by adding coconut oil to chow going back decades - it appears to be a standard experimental setup (here's another), with the experiments testing whether another nutrient can prevent deleterious effects.
Meals with coconut milk (Singaporean Nasi Lemak: rice cooked in coconut milk) are as bad for human endothelial function as an Egg McMuffin.
So, skim coconut milk may in fact be beneficial, but the fatty portion of whole coconut milk, despite the HDL elevation, appears as bad for your arteries as butter or lard.
― A guy who one-shots his coffee before it even cools down (Sanpaku), Saturday, 15 September 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
xxxp you're talking about actual coconut milk that comes in cans and not coconut milk beverage?
― fit and working again, Saturday, 15 September 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Is it possible that in eating paleo-ish for a few solid months about a year ago, I set myself up to react to carbs more strongly than before? I liked eating paleo-ish, but I fell off the wagon. Before I started, I would get sugar spikes/crashes from carbs and get hungry very suddenly. Now, after the paleo-ish interlude, back on the carbs, this seems much worse. I get insanely, desperately hungry even more suddenly.
― ljubljana, Sunday, 23 September 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Its plausible. If you were getting most of your fuel from ketosis it would naturally upregulate all the glucose transporters in glucose starved cells.
― ‽ Interrobang You're Dead ‽ (Sanpaku), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't think I was eating low-carb enough to enter ketosis (had tons of veg and fruit) but who knows, maybe I was... Or maybe I'm just eating even more carbs now than I was pre-paleo.
― ljubljana, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
I've read that insulin spikes can lead to increased appetite. Maybe that's what was going on.
― ryan, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
still not ready for full nn steez but solidly trying to eat healthy + less + better (also exercise wow)
today I learned that I like cottage cheese! mum used to eat it when she did weight watchers and ugh it was so watery and bland and slimy and gross I swore I would never eat it again
today = rice cakes & cottage cheese with some lemon pepper oh hi yum!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
(i didn't know where else to post)
Cottage cheese on baked potatoes is the best (not paleo I know...)
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
ooh i will try that
don't eat potatoes much these days but come wintertime that might be one to try
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
cut up cherry tomatoes and green pepper and add it to your cottage cheese
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
substitute cuke for the pepper if you don't like green pepper
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
! will try!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
prefer green pepper cooked vs raw: cukes otm tho
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
had free pizza for lunch, ugh
going with a smoothie and hard boiled eggs and spinach for dinner
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
I need to do some hardboiling of eggs tonight
damn I love hb eggs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
What do you eat them with hard-boiled? I should eat more eggs for breakfast but I tend to go for soft-boiled, but then I have to have toast.
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
soy sauce
― barthes simpson, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah something salty
dash of salt or soy
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
I like them cold, on their own
maybe a bit of salt - if they're super yummy eggs then nothing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
I have trouble with the texture of the runny yolk when they're soft-boiled, it kinda skeeves me out for some reason
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Tbh I slice one medium-boiled egg and spread it on one bialy and salt it. It's not paleo, but it is delicious.
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
soft boiled eggs are the best
― barthes simpson, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I've never had a bialy. now I want one
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
x-post - You're not alone, VG. I can't stomach runny yolk at all. Runny yolk makes me feel sick.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Bialys are really, REALLY good. They're small, and kind of sour like sourdough, and have a more doughy/chewy texture than a bagel or bread. I scrape the mushy onions out of the middles but some people love the onions, so if that's your thing....
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
I like bialys onions and all.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
I also personally find a bialy a reasonable portion size, kind of like an English muffin but denser, whereas a New York bagel is basically two meals at this point.
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
I'll have to keep my eye out for them, I tend not to eat bagels because there's just too much
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Never had them either, wanna try. Googling reveals one (1) place to buy them here.
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
googling reveals zero (0) places to buy in Sacto
;_;
but maybe I can get some next time I'm in San Francisco, so all is not lost
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
am going to try almond milk
any brand recommendations? I'm guessing unsweetened is the way to go?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
Silk Pure Almond unsweetened!
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
Sweetened is still only like 60 cals per cup. Ytth likes the trader joe's stuff
― just1n3, Friday, 5 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Unsweetened Almond Breeze is my usual purchase. The sweetened variety isn't that bad, but the unsweetened kind has more utility for creaming up savory soups, etc.
― ‽ Interrobang You're Dead ‽ (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm planning to use it in coffee and I don't really use sweetener at all so I figured unsweetened would be best
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
you can get unsweetened vanilla if it doesn't grab you.wanna throw out another vote for VANILLA RICE MILK, underappreciated substitute milk of the substitute milks, but sure try almond why not.
― unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
<3 I will bear that in mind schlump
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
The only veggie milk I can definitely vote against is the kind of soy milk sold fresh in Asian groceries. It really does taste like liquid edamane, which is just odd. Western soy milk is rather different, and way more palatable (to Westerners, at any rate).
― ‽ Interrobang You're Dead ‽ (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 October 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
western soy milk is undrinkable fwiw
― barthes simpson, Friday, 5 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
1 head steamed cauli1 can white beansa little milk if neededa little tiny bit of butter (optional)plenty of salt of and pepperinto the food processor
= super tasty alternative to mashed potatoes
― just1n3, Saturday, 6 October 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
white beans are so good. they pair well with sage.
― ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Saturday, 6 October 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
yah i made a vegan "ricotta" for a lasagne last week
― just1n3, Saturday, 6 October 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
(with white beans, i mean)
almond milk latte this morning - pretty yum! (Silk unsweetened, thanks orbit)
it'll take some getting used to but it's definitely a nice change not feeling quite so sluggish. I think maybe I have some lactose issues that I'd never noticed before? idk. I love the smell of it, it's much more pleasant to drink than I expected.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link