barbara bush will always be the first pearl
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://content6.flixster.com/rtactor/40/34/40344_pro.jpg
http://www.reddstewart.com/minnie_pearl.jpg
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
this book is eventualy going to be a best-seller isn't it
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
Wow. http://weirdtalesmagazine.com/2012/08/20/a-message-from-the-publisher/
I would like to tell our community that Weird Tales will NOT be running an excerpt from Victoria Foyt's novel in our upcoming issue.Marvin Kaye is our editor and has full control over fiction published in the magazine and website, and he agrees with me on this.Marvin was approached by Victoria Foyt, and was asked to review her novel. He was told that she was being slammed online by people who had not read it.I have not read the novel, but have gone over its online presence today. I have no need to read it. I saw the blackface video and read the excerpts the author and publisher chose to make available. I must conclude that the use of the powerful symbols of white people forced to wear blackface to escape the sun, white women lusting after black "beast men," the "pearls" and "coals," etc., is goddamned ridiculous and offensive. It seems like the work of someone who does not understand the power of what she is playing with.Marvin says if you read the whole book, she explains her use of this imagery, and it ends up as a plea for tolerance. I say, so what. And that is the position of Weird Tales - and upon reviewing the video and other materials, Marvin is in full agreement.I deeply apologize to all who were offended by our association with this book. I am offended by it. I fully respect those who have been writing negative things about us today. You are correct.I have removed Marvin's endorsement because he no longer stands by it. Marvin is traveling and will make his own statement shortly.
Marvin Kaye is our editor and has full control over fiction published in the magazine and website, and he agrees with me on this.
Marvin was approached by Victoria Foyt, and was asked to review her novel. He was told that she was being slammed online by people who had not read it.
I have not read the novel, but have gone over its online presence today. I have no need to read it. I saw the blackface video and read the excerpts the author and publisher chose to make available. I must conclude that the use of the powerful symbols of white people forced to wear blackface to escape the sun, white women lusting after black "beast men," the "pearls" and "coals," etc., is goddamned ridiculous and offensive. It seems like the work of someone who does not understand the power of what she is playing with.
Marvin says if you read the whole book, she explains her use of this imagery, and it ends up as a plea for tolerance. I say, so what. And that is the position of Weird Tales - and upon reviewing the video and other materials, Marvin is in full agreement.
I deeply apologize to all who were offended by our association with this book. I am offended by it. I fully respect those who have been writing negative things about us today. You are correct.
I have removed Marvin's endorsement because he no longer stands by it. Marvin is traveling and will make his own statement shortly.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
wow is right
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
Somebody's livid at somebody, that's for sure.
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
gotta admit my first impulse is to subscribe
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
i still dont understand why anyone cares about this? is this like the book world V-Nasty?
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody idiot says something racist, internet explodes
except at the moment isn't it more like, respected science fiction magazine plans to publish racist idiot, science fiction world explodes?
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
uh yeah
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
they didnt though
he wrote a huge missive about why they werent gonna publish an except from some self released book
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but that was after everyone already exploded
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
Marvin was approached by Victoria Foyt, and was asked to review her novel.
like i should write angry letters about every unsolicited demo i get?
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
All of this would be just another internet firestorm about somebody being an idiot — except that Weird Tales Magazine, one of the most venerable speculative fiction magazines in the world, decided to reprint the first chapter of Saving the Pearls in its next issue. And Weird Tales editor Marvin Kaye, who took over the magazine from the Hugo Award-winning team of Ann VanderMeer and Stephen Segal last year, wrote a blog post defending the book:
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
oh i see
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah those blue things are links to other websites sometimes w/ more information
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
i read this thing like four times
http://weirdtalesmagazine.com/2012/08/20/a-message-from-the-publisher/
and didnt get the backstory
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh the io9 post detailing the original controversy is in phil d's post upthread
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
I hope you are in a receptive mood. Thanks very much for placing within me the bomb that never stops exploding. Though the benefits have been intangible and in fact I feel that this terrifying mechanism has generally made my life intolerable, I shall never ask you to reverse the situation.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:25 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Eh I think she's actually been published at least as many times as you have and is married to one (1) more famous film director than you are, so "nobody" is being a bit thick here as well.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
the use of "goddamned" in that editor's note cracks me up for some reason
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
me too actually, very cranky
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
has Marvin Kaye's followup statement appeared yet
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
My white math teacher says "fo sho" a lot.
― windjamm voyager (blank), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
He really likes Dave Chapelle
― windjamm voyager (blank), Friday, 24 August 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
He has an enormous shoulder chip
― windjamm voyager (blank), Friday, 24 August 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/asian-woman-dating-asian-men-jenny-an
― jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Friday, 31 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Former co-worker tags all of his instagrams taken of his fiancee with #amazingasian. Creeps me out a little, but to each their own.
― pplains, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
That article has no point.
― check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
really just wanna lol at the author
― jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
xojane is no elite daily anyway
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
wtf with that article
― rayuela, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
*at (not with)
think that the point of the article is that the author is confused, conflicted and self-loathing, but doesn't really care. not much of a point, i grant you...
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, is it trying to normalize asian-american self-loathing? ugh
― Nhex, Friday, 31 August 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ the author
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 31 August 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
on one hand it reads like the ravings of a depressed person, a cry for help. on the other hand she's trying to spin her racism as 'merely feminism', ugh ugh
― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Friday, 31 August 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
great red panda punchlinehttp://www.xojane.com/files/JennyAn3.jpg
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 September 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
her back-pedaling is also lol
http://twitter.com/jenny_an
'junot diaz-inspired performance art'
― USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Saturday, 1 September 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
that was the most annoying part of her dumb "piece," when she namechecked junot diaz. i was like, i'm preeeeeetty sure this is not what junot diaz was talking about when he said we have to acknowledge the white spremacist within us.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 1 September 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
anyway she's an idiot; asian american dudes doged a bullet
― horseshoe, Saturday, 1 September 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbULBAjstBA
― s.clover, Saturday, 8 September 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
gross
― Nhex, Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty sure ted is a racist.
― s.clover, Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
or bob even.
http://laist.com/2012/09/12/middle_schooler_booted_from_class.php
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558245_514703765213483_1661924772_n.jpg
― gesange der yuengling (crüt), Monday, 17 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
also for his bad haircut
― max, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
he's missing the frosted tips
― gesange der yuengling (crüt), Monday, 17 September 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link