Rolling Classical 2012

The violin is not a monophonic instrument. Check the score I linked: a second voice enters in m. 4 and a THIRD voice enters in m. 10.

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no.....but i don't think anybody wrote for the violin like this prior to him? biber maybe?

maybe Corelli

Baltzar, Biber, Walther, and Westhoff are listed as German antecedents here: http://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/1903/2912/1/umi-umd-2703.pdf

Talking of centenaries has anyone caught any performances of Pierrot Lunaire?

I've missed one that I know of in NYC, probably more I didn't notice. I should really keep a sharper eye out; this is a bucket-list piece for me to see in performance

I guess that a fugue could be of ideas and/or rhythms and need not be polyphonic? Or you could just play a single voice of a fugue and it'd be beautiful and the polyphony would be implied?

Anyway there's some/lots of polyphonic music for violin/cello pre-Bach but those solo sonatas/suites were revolutionary insofar as they extended 'violinistic technique'. (Also, those violin fugues are uh 'bad pieces' as far as I'm concerned, save the g-minor, they're the hardest to learn and the hardest to sell)

I've just never known of another single-voice fugue so I'm interested to see what this guy did with this idea. It's likely that it's along the lines of what you suggest.

who have you been trying to sell them too ówen?

too

Me personally? Nobody, those fugues are good for nothing but auditions. You can't play them at weddings or funerals. They're not flashy enough for a recital or beautiful enough for church service.

The high-water mark in Bach solo violin polyphonic writing is imho the Adagio from Sonata 3 (C major), pretty much the most beautiful thing ever written, Youtube it, I'll listen to Hahn, Ehnes and John Holloway playing it back-to-back-to-back

Fuck it this is so beautiful I'm gonna post it on the drone thread

lack of flashiness no bad thing

xpost of course I don't have any of those three -- I have Kremer II, St. John, J. Fischer, and Grumiaux

milstein for all that

kremer ii i have heard, perlman

zehetmair is v dry if u go in for it

I kiss Gidon for his Ysaye forever but his Bach makes me want to [do something negative]. Milstein and Grimeaux are good.

People are all *roll eyes* when people say Hahn anything but her robot technique works excellent for me on Bach and if she ever records the complete sonatas/suites I'll buy ten copies.

Seriously: seek out John Holloway for his Baroque performances, he gets a little shaky on some of the toughies but his tone and intonation are just heartwrenching

Holloway is on iTunes, get a sample over there

I have zero Holloway recordings somehow! I remember his Biber Rosary Sonatas got rave reviews back in the day.

I have nothing against Hahn. She somehow came up with a new recording of the Sibelius concerto that felt fresh to me after all the ones I've had and loved. The Schoenberg on the same disc was also awesome.

^ don't tell a Finn that

Rachel Podger's Bach recordings (with historical instrument) are very good

The high-water mark in Bach solo violin polyphonic writing is imho the Adagio from Sonata 3 (C major), pretty much the most beautiful thing ever written, Youtube it, I'll listen to Hahn, Ehnes and John Holloway playing it back-to-back-to-back

Listened to Hahn's recording twice yesterday.

...thoughts?

Oh, it was very nice, sorry. Really good piece. I haven't listened to other recordings of it enough to make comparisons about the performance.

I guess that wasn't the most informative post, ha. Just chiming in that I was listening to your recommendation, I guess.

Many "Romantic" violinists/cellists make a go at enhancing the drama of Bach Adagios, but I prefer a performance that aims for tranquility, just letting the voicing spin out in the most natural way. Still haven't found a 100% great performance of the Ciaconne but I guess that'll never happen and maybe shouldn't

milsteinnnn

OK

not by those criteria, but by mine

'the most natural way'...i don't know enough about violins and violinism to say, but this is just the _absolute_, and he was 82 years old too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l75X-SDKq1Y

Listened to '68 and already, it's not for me. There's enormous amount of open-E on that first page and I like it when the performer integrates its tone instead of having it ring out like baby in the next room.

'86 is so far kind of awesome, holy shit? 82 years old? I like this performance better

Oh my god I'm gonna cry his wrist is so stiffened and still it's so beautiful

http://www.emiclassicsus.com/latest_news/fifty-shades-of-grey-the-classical-album/

*blows head off*

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/15/feldman-crippled-symmetry-review

http://i.imgur.com/d3Q7j.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXshbVJL2gc

holy shit

NYer profile of Christian Tetzlaff piqued my interest and I've been working through some of his recordings on Spotify. His Bach Sonatas & Partitas are pretty much revelatory, which is classical-douchebag-speak for awesome.

Also liked his Brahms violin concerto very much

He really has his own sound, as advertised.

hes good in the bartok unaccompanied violin sonata

^yes, I v much recommend his Bartok disc with Leif Ove Andsnes. Been meaning to get his Hanssler rerecording of the Bach cycle for years. Also recommended: recent Szymanowski disc with him and Boulez.

NYer article was nice.

the other day i blagged a ticket to this excellent concert

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/26/prom-56-bbcso-knussen/print

and after the end of 'le martyre', plummy voiced woman in the next box exclaimed 'thank GOD, that was almost as bad as mahler'

so many layers of idiocy

Mehler.

smdh

So what are your favorite piano quintets? Recommend some, plz.

‘With Moses und Aron, I have tried to destroy Stravinsky’s quote
saying that music was powerless to express the most abstract, the
most ordinary, the most concrete things.’ (Jean-Marie Straub)

(Note: Schoenberg's title may have omitted an "A" in Aaron's name because the composer was severely superstitious triskaidekaphobe.[3] "Moses und Aaron" would have caused the title to have a total of 13 letters.)

been meaning to see those straub/huillet filmed operas -- they did one of vom heute auf morgen that looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hztoVTHac

send me into space with this forever in my ears please

I love that guy!