All You Cruisers - THE KATE BUSH VOTING THREAD (ilm artist poll #24: deadline Saturday 25 August)

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I can't imagine people ignoring Aerial or Snow, but they might suffer from lack of consensus on which tracks are the favorites.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'd think there's relatively strong consensus on Snow - there's only three good tracks to begin with.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know yet what I think of Snow tbh. There's one track I'm certain I'll vote for, but I doubt it's the consensus pick.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

I only voted for one track off Aerial - found it hard to single out anything from the second disc, it feels too much of a piece.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

starting to listen through her discog now. Moving is a fantastic and underrated album/career opener, presents her fully formed.

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 19 August 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

I like most of Snow, but Snowflake is probably the only track I'll vote for.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 19 August 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

the four keepers from the debut for me are Moving, Strange Phenomena, Man With The Child and Wuthering.

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 19 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

I only voted for one track off Aerial - found it hard to single out anything from the second disc, it feels too much of a piece.

i ran into the same difficulty w/r/t aerial but i think my solution might be to just vote for the entirety of aerial

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 August 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

the four keepers from the debut for me are Moving, Strange Phenomena, Man With The Child and Wuthering.

The original vocal on Wuthering is hard to listen to if you know the new vocal she recorded for the version on The Whole Story. The difference is Top 20 Kate and Top 5.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

man, really? i love the OG vocal so much, how it swings from the rafters

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

i've never really cottoned to the re-recorded version but maybe i haven't given it a fair shake

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

On my fifth past and still have 34 left. This is after the "so only leave those you cannot live without" pass. And I have just had to lose Army Dreamers and that's just wrong!

For what it's worth, I too love the re-recorded Heights vocals.

Guilty_Boksen, Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

On my fifth pass and still have 34 left. This is after the "so only leave those you cannot live without" pass. And I have just had to lose Army Dreamers and that's just wrong!

IKR. Getting down from 30 to 20 was painful. But it's done - ballot sent. And "Army Dreamers" survived. :) Most of the other hit singles had to be cut though - on the sole ground that they'll probably get enough love in others' ballots.

Jeff W, Monday, 20 August 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

Lionheart is mega mega underrated.

also the OG wuthering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remake

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 20 August 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

i only really know her singles well. voting anyway because i think experiment iv needs my help too

pop, singular (electricsound), Monday, 20 August 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

Big ups for "Lily" from The Red Shoes, which also got a nice makeover on The Director's Cut.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 August 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Lily's one of two or three from that album in serious contention for me. Haven't heard the Director's Cut version, but I've always loved the original.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 August 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

Whoa my ballot has nothing from "Never for ever" on it

Diefendollar Bill, Yall$ (Ówen P.), Monday, 20 August 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

Oh wait, "Breathing" never mind. Hard poll.

Diefendollar Bill, Yall$ (Ówen P.), Monday, 20 August 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

Lionheart is mega mega underrated.

I agree.

Tim F, Monday, 20 August 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

The Red Shoes has really grown on me. I was sad to only have room for one cut, it's full of good stuff.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'll def vote for "Rubberband Girl" or "Big Stripey Lie."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

I might do a short ballot for this one after all. Probably 10 tracks instead of 20.

Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

I was hoping Surm and Noodle Vague would turn up for this - give them a prod if you see them please.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

love Top Of The City and Why Should I Love You... the rest not so much

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I have to get this off my chest but I find 'The Hounds Of Love' massively over rated...''The Dreaming', 'Never For Ever' and 'Aeriel' piss on it from a great height...there I dun said it...so fuckin sue me...(Cloudbusting is about the best thing she did tho)...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

I hope you feel better now. Asshole.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

50 Words for Snow was a serious disappointment.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I actually love "Director's Cut" and "50 Words..." much more than anything before it post "HoL". Voted accordingly.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

Her production got super slick and fussy from "Sensual World" on and didn't really get back to down to earth (or the Kate's version of Earth) until "Aerial" - and that's just the first side. Still have a hard time getting thru the 2nd half of that record.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

^^ super slick and fussy for the most part. And "The Red Shoes" suffered from a terrible mix - or maybe bad engineering. Haven't heard the remasters.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

"The dreaming" is a love-a-Fairlight-or-GTFO kind of record, isn't it

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite!

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

people better be voting for The Wedding List.

this is just omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ymxgS4XHRA

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

The Dreaming rules and Get Out Of My House is top 3 kate songs ever territory

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Now I have done it and sent it off to IK I am still startled at where I have put some of these tracks.

Obviously not given anything away, but if I have to rep for some tracks I think may be forgotten can I ask you all to listen to the beautiful Under the Ivy? And then crank up the volume and stick on the fantastic NIght of the Swallow? Thank you.

Guilty_Boksen, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Night of the Swallow is definitely on mine. Celtic film noir.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

I do love her use of celtic influences, it's pretty unusual for an act to employ them without seeming lame

Ismael Klata, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

"night of the swallow" is perfectly sequenced in the dreaming, too.

"jig of life" is fucking terrifying tbh

lex pretend, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

I just tried to think about this and honestly. My head exploded.

Oblique Strategies, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

I do love her use of celtic influences, it's pretty unusual for an act to employ them without seeming lame

Yeah she's not cutesy with it, she goes for big dramatic effect.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure what you mean by cutesy, but I was thinking of other acts limply garnishing with a few pipes or a bit of mysticism, or else going the full pub-rock-with-a-fiddle route. I don't know who else compares really - The Pogues really go for it sometimes, but they're basically actual folk and obviously nowhere near as inventive.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

Bush came from an artistic background: her mother was a former Irish folk dancer, her father was an accomplished pianist, Paddy worked as a musical instrument maker and John was a poet and photographer. Both brothers were involved in the local folk music scene.[8]

I didn't know anything about her background, but I feel like here's the answer.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I wish I liked more of her stuff... I love Hounds of Love SO much, but the other records I've checked out I've been somewhat "yeesh, that's a bit much"... Maybe I'll try and pull together a ballot, though. I probably just need to spend more time with her other work.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

enjoying the "yeesh, that's a bit much" is key, i think

contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

only really came around in kate w/in the last year

contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

uh, "on kate", yeesh

contenderizer, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

enjoying the "yeesh, that's a bit much" is key, i think

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Clarke If you approach The Dreaming as P.I.L. record and enjoy it on that level, then at some point enjoy it without needing it frame that way, you're probably set for everything else she did.

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

Moments Of Pleasure might just be the best song ever written from the point of view of someone who's just been through the grief process. imho.

piscesx, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of "that's a bit much," "get out of my house" is a lock for my top ten

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I'll try to get one in in the next hour.

etc, Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:38 (eleven years ago) link

Grand. I have one space left on my chart, so I'll wait for yours then I'll close things off.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:58 (eleven years ago) link

So ... hard ...

etc, Sunday, 26 August 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

There we are.

Okay, voting is now closed. Thank you everyone for your contributions.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 09:04 (eleven years ago) link

wait, i've changed my mind, i wanna redo the whole ballot

just one little Tayto (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 August 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

kick inside - 2
lionheart - 1
never for ever - 4
the dreaming - 5
hounds of love - 4
the sensual world - 1
the red shoes - 0
aerial - 2
director's cut - 0
50 words for snow - 1
non-album - 1

charlie h, Sunday, 26 August 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

actually, non-album should read 0

charlie h, Sunday, 26 August 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

i wanna redo the whole ballot

I know. I've done the adding up and now I know exactly how I should've voted.

How long a countdown do we want? A hundred songs have received votes; there are natural breaks at nos. 15, 25 and 50.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

how many ballots? i'd say 50

balls, Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

36 ballots

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

That's a pretty good turnout, I was worried there'd be fewer than 20.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yes it's excellent, we did really well. Twenty was my basic target and I got twelve in the first few days, so I knew not to panic when I then went about three days with nothing. And I got eleven yesterday and three more overnight, so you really stepped up at the end, thanks.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

And it was only nine days, no need to drag these out unduly.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

OTM -- "Do or do not, there is no 'try'," saith the little swamp critter.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Sunday, 26 August 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

took a short road trip with a family of friends this afternoon and picked ipod tracks as we drove around. among other things, i played "violin" off N4E - mostly because i'm obsessed with it, but also cuz mr. friend is a "weird music" fan and had mentioned that he only knew kate bush through "don't give up." he dug it a lot, and mrs. friend thought the vocal swoops were hilarious, but man, their five-year-old daughter just HATED it. complained at first, then plugged her ears the way through. nothing else bugged her, either. she seemed to enjoy sonic youth, fall out boy (a lot), grimes and lindstrom. felt kinda bad for her, but it's good to learn young that art = suffering.

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha, i'm not surprised that a kid would dislike that song, it's pretty abrasive in it's own way

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 27 August 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link


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