Bolt the door, Varg is loose!

can we have the thread title amended to reflect his actual name? the 'r' in there is bothering me...

CURCHES

/what a cool guy, i'm so glad white indie rock kids continue to praise him as a cult figure/

I would like to see these "indie rock kids" strawmen that praise him as a cult figure. I know plenty of people that will defend his music but distance themselves from anything political, social, or religious he spouts, but I can't name one single person that "praises him as a cult figure".
--jon /via/ chi 2.0

I don't know where you live, but my neighborhood is filled with skinny Steve albini looking motherfuvkers riding the subway in burzum shirts. That's not "distancing themselves" from anything

half those people have never heard a note of burzum in their lives though, I mean you 100% know that

If you find the shirts distasteful you should have considered that before moving to the Churchburningsville neighborhood.

I would like to see these "indie rock kids" strawmen that praise him as a cult figure. I know plenty of people that will defend his music but distance themselves from anything political, social, or religious he spouts, but I can't name one single person that "praises him as a cult figure".

Banks Violette

I mean, Williamsburg based artist's solo show at the Whitney consists of burned out church scaffolding made out of blowtorched salt, placed on drum risers. That said, he's a metal guy, not an indie rock kid

I don't know where you live, but my neighborhood is filled with skinny Steve albini looking motherfuvkers riding the subway in burzum shirts. That's not "distancing themselves" from anything

Last time I saw N1(k from Vice he was sporting a Burzum shirt in Food Swings. Have to back up Whiney on this one.

that is a pretty specific cross-section of a cross-section of a population, there

this is one of my fave thread titles btw

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, May 25, 2009 8:09 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i read it to the tune of "The Beast" by the Fugees

― death cab for kudi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 25, 2009 8:10 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol ditto

nobody denies that Whiney sees dudes in Burzum t-shirts. whether they'd be able to tell Burzum from Bathory on an unmarked mixtape is another q

Yeah I have no idea. People's relationships to the band shirts they wear is something I can't puzzle out these days. Unless they are an actual metalhead in which case I always assume it's a non-post-modern 'i like this band' thing.

Right but id'ing the music is separate from praising him as a cult figure.

And I do get the impression that particularly the church burning is actually quite forgiven or excused. The nazism/murder perhaps less so.

Although even the murder some people do try to sorta justify with "well Euronymous was threatening him too" etc.

See: Amy Phillips takes a Black Metal tour on PFork thing and the guide playing that card.

http://www.nocleansinging.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Varg-2012-promo-2-e1333238263659.jpg

How has no-one posted this picture yet?

http://www.radiometal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/varg-hunter-2012-02.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1r6hofzpX1r280mvo3_1280.jpg

Looks tired in that last pic. Chainmail very heavy, I guess.

i like to think those are meant for okcupid

hey now bro that man is MARRIED

This is my favourite:

http://www.thedailyrock.com/wp-content/uploads/247ab__photo203-572x858.jpg

Someone should shop Rob Darken into that pic.

Bros for life & all...

What is the context of these photos? Facebook? Norwegian Details mag or something?

http://wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/04/cd-thumb.jpg

They're the promo photos for his last album.

If you go to burzum dot org and look in the photos section there's a load more there ("Umskiptar" promo 2012). Not sure I want to post a link...

I don't know where you live, but my neighborhood is filled with skinny Steve albini looking motherfuvkers riding the subway in burzum shirts. That's not "distancing themselves" from anything

― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 13:51 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hi Whiney, its me, from ILX
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254750_232556050115161_5081183_n.jpg

nothing against anyone who just posted to ILX, but i have a very hard time with burzum/varg as an icon/meme. i was a semi-vocal fan of the early burzum stuff for a while, but after a certain point, i realized i couldn't justify any kind of endorsement, no matter how "purely aesthetic".

maybe 100 years from now the music will have become culturally neutral and my descendents won't be empowering armies of murderous bigots by saying kind words about "jesus' tod", but in the here and now, dude should be ignored, thrown away, fucking wiped from history. his work should not be mentioned, his records should not be played, and his shirts should not be worn by anyone, ever.

Post-viking pics, never before has a convicted murderer, arsonist, and racist been so difficult to take seriously

I'd say, in Portland at least, every one of those kids wearing the shirt at least owns and listens to Filosofem.

I was given a very cool Burzum shirt that I wish I could wear out. It's been buried in the bottom of a drawer since I received it. Don't think I'm going to find an event where it's appropriate to wear it out, especially after the local Anti-Fa group here decided I might be a "fascist sympathizer" for booking some dates for Allerseelen (who are really nice guys, if a super corny band).

especially after the local Anti-Fa group here decided I might be a "fascist sympathizer" for booking some dates for Allerseelen

haha this is some 21st cent woody allen/"people's front of judea" type stuff here

haw haw, used to go to metal shows in the late 90s and some anti fascist league guy (well, my friend i went to the show with)passed around xeroxed fliers about burzum's nazi history and how you should boycott them or something. i was sorta into them then and was even subscribed to the burzum mailing list, and damn, those were some freaky ass people. once it got into blacks, jews, and all that shit, i decided to get out of bm and embrace the limp wristed serenity of indiedom to atone for my sins.

well hey lets not paint all black metal with the burzum brush here

well yeah, not all bm is nazi ... most of it isn't. i just remember there being a white power/nazi undercurrent somewhere whenever bm was involved. this was the 90s, though, so side-flipped undercut guy's probably not all about that.

but ya know, if you're familiar with burzum to any degree, it's hard not to associate them with hardcore nazi stuff, because that was the Total Burzum Experience from what i remember.

haha this is some 21st cent woody allen/"people's front of judea" type stuff here

― goole, Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:44 AM (57 minutes ago)

Haha, tell me more. I really love being the guy with Jewish blood that's accused of sympathizing with fascists. Especially because I don't.

Dwight, I def don't live in a town with skies that blue!

half those people have never heard a note of burzum in their lives though, I mean you 100% know that

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:57 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nobody denies that Whiney sees dudes in Burzum t-shirts. whether they'd be able to tell Burzum from Bathory on an unmarked mixtape is another q

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

well if people are wearing band shirts of a guy whose music they don't really listen to, then ok the issue is purely an Alex In NYC "how dare Shania Twain wear a Ramones shirt!" rant type thing and it clearly means people AREN'T fetishizing a guy who's mainly known for being a nazi murderer and Whiney has no point, yeah, sure.

if you wear the shirt and don't know the music then... it must be the extra-musical shit you're representing? ie the nazi-murdery stuff? or 'un-PC controversy' in a pigfuck way, at least.

but ya know, if you're familiar with burzum to any degree, it's hard not to associate them with hardcore nazi stuff, because that was the Total Burzum Experience from what i remember.

Dude pretty much ruined his career anyway with the murder and the nazi shit. On the basis of those first 4 records alone he could've just lay back and let himself be canonized as a Tom G Warrior or Lemmy-type scene godfather. Instead he killed his mentor and went full retard paranoid nutcase, all reputable record labels immediately lost interest, mags wouldn't place his ads, he has to pay back everything he'll ever earn to restore that church, and nobody will ever run a serious article on his music.

Meanwhile, surprised nobody has commented on Umskiptar, quite interesting record and definitely a big step out of the normal Burzum comfort zone. Concept album based on a 13th century poem, mostly spoken word & clean chants over slow, long folkish songs...not all of it works but if he continues reinventing himself like this I'm not complaining.

i figure i'll listen to it after he dies

if you wear the shirt and don't know the music then... it must be the extra-musical shit you're representing?

When I was in early high school those dancing bears/logo Grateful Dead shirts were popular among a group of kids. I don't think any of them were at all interested in the music, and I'm pretty sure they weren't really stoners.

maybe they were all architecture dudes who really don't like stave churches

i figure i'll listen to it after he dies

just being mean, i mean, i hardly expect to outlive anyone

a significant proportion of our population is over 60, I think you'll do fine

well if people are wearing band shirts of a guy whose music they don't really listen to, then ok the issue is purely an Alex In NYC "how dare Shania Twain wear a Ramones shirt!" rant type thing and it clearly means people AREN'T fetishizing a guy who's mainly known for being a nazi murderer and Whiney has no point, yeah, sure.

no, it's more complicated than that - Shania wears a Ramones shirt to a photoshoot. A photoshoot and your social life are two different things.

wearing a "coming soon to church near you" shirt as i read this