Also, I'm fairly sure Howlin' Rain aren't metal (although I do like that album).
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, no real shock at these guys being the truest metal:
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted a metal album in the ILX poll. The problem isn't courage, it's that no metal album I voted for here cracked my top 10. Sorry guyz :(
― Mordy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, forget any idea of ILM Metal voting blocks. Nachtmystium's 11 P&J votes include only one from anybody who voted in this poll. Torche's 26 include only 3 of ours. Jeff and I accounted for 2/3rds of the P&J metal votes from people in this poll, and our ballots didn't overlap at all!
As I said, the "definition" of metal I used for scoring voters was all, and only, albums that got at least one vote in this poll. Thus Testament doesn't count (4 P&J votes, one from Jeff). Nor does Black Sabbath (1 P&J vote). And probably there are others that we "know" are metal. But I'm just reporting the numbers as they are, not as they "should" be...
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Back to this poll, here are the average points/voter for all albums that got at least 3 votes:
23.6 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass19.6 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia19.1 - Torche - Meanderthal18.7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town18.4 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 118.3 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale17.8 - Wetnurse - Invisible City17.5 - Caina - Temporary Antennae17.1 - Krallice - Krallice16.8 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday16.6 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood16.6 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser16.5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner16.3 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh16.3 - Opeth - Watershed16.1 - Enslaved - Vertebrae16 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life16 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood16 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience15.7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier15.7 - Cynic - Traced in Air15.5 - Meshuggah - obZen15.3 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke15.2 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It15 - Disfear - Live the Storm14.9 - 5ive - Hesperus14.8 - Moss - Sub Templum14.7 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony14.6 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi14.5 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...14.3 - The Goslings - Occasion14.1 - Boris - Smile14.1 - Melvins - Nude With Boots14 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master14 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely14 - Witch - Paralyzed13.8 - Coffins - Buried Death13.8 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror13.7 - Metallica - Death Magnetic13.6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God13.6 - Jarboe - Mahakali13.5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal13.5 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness13.5 - Withered - Folie Circulaire13.3 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum13.1 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth13 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness13 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect12.6 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom12.6 - Helms Alee - Night Terror12.5 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled12.5 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn12.4 - Darkspace - III12 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within11.5 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth11.3 - Death Angel - Killing Season11.3 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House11.3 - Ocrilim - Annwn11 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII11 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t11 - UFOmammut - Idolum10.5 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms10.4 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth9.6 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros9.5 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs9.4 - Eluveitie - Slania9.3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward9.3 - Morkobot - Morto9.1 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution9 - Graveyard - Graveyard8.7 - Motorhead - Motorizer8 - Tyr - Land7.6 - Trees - Lights Bane
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Cynic album, which I like, pushes my Porcupine Tree buttons. Holds up on relistens too.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link
And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.
0.89 - Brad C0.79 - Matthew Everett0.76 - EZ Snappin'0.75 - Big Hoos0.75 - Bimble0.73 - Whiney G0.72 - A Begrand0.72 - Marco Damiani0.72 - Pfunkboy0.71 - Ryan random0.7 - Aldo0.7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.68 - Kathedraal0.65 - John Justen0.65 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.64 - Colonel Poo0.64 - Alan N0.64 - Don Parsley0.63 - Cut_your_ribbon0.62 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.58 - Ez0.55 - DJ Mencap0.49 - J3ff T0.46 - Karl Vesely0.45 - Matt Cibula0.45 - Poison Stone0.38 - Mordy0.26 - DJ Martian0.23 - glenn mcdonald0.12 - Xhukkx
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't even WANT to know where your porcupine tree buttons are located.
x-post
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought I would be higher.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
The hilarious thing about this poll is that, even though Chuck only got .12, it actually goes a long way towards supporting his definition of metal.
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Here are the top 5 most similar other voters for each voter. The decimal number is a rough measurement of similarity: 1.000 would mean the two people's ballots exactly matched. This takes into account album popularity, so the fewer people voted for an album, the more similar two voters are for sharing it. The second number is the raw number of albums in common.
A Begrand0.556 - 16 - Matthew Everett0.528 - 14 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.453 - 12 - Big Hoos0.438 - 10 - J3ff T0.430 - 9 - Brad C
Alan N0.354 - 6 - Marco Damiani0.345 - 6 - Ez0.318 - 5 - EZ Snappin'0.314 - 6 - Kathedraal0.305 - 6 - Pfunkboy
Aldo0.431 - 8 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.409 - 7 - Bimble0.398 - 9 - Whiney G0.390 - 9 - Big Hoos0.354 - 8 - John Justen
Big Hoos0.446 - 12 - A Begrand0.414 - 12 - Matthew Everett0.400 - 9 - Aldo0.387 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.380 - 5 - Mordy
Bimble0.365 - 7 - Aldo0.330 - 7 - Pfunkboy0.298 - 4 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.298 - 6 - Ez0.292 - 3 - Colonel Poo
Brad C0.406 - 10 - Matthew Everett0.383 - 9 - A Begrand0.370 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.363 - 6 - DJ Martian0.334 - 8 - Big Hoos
Colonel Poo0.405 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.391 - 7 - Whiney G0.309 - 5 - Aldo0.292 - 3 - Bimble0.282 - 5 - A Begrand0.282 - 5 - Matthew Everett
Cut_your_ribbon0.531 - 12 - Ryan random0.493 - 13 - Kathedraal0.425 - 10 - Ez0.423 - 11 - Pfunkboy0.367 - 7 - Poison Stone
DJ Martian0.408 - 6 - Brad C0.390 - 7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.329 - 6 - J3ff T0.300 - 5 - Matthew Everett0.296 - 4 - Matt Cibula
DJ Mencap0.402 - 8 - Marco Damiani0.391 - 5 - Karl Vesely0.386 - 9 - Pfunkboy0.385 - 9 - Kathedraal0.331 - 8 - Matthew Everett
Don Parsley0.464 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.425 - 9 - Marco Damiani0.372 - 9 - Matthew Everett0.370 - 8 - Pfunkboy0.338 - 7 - Kathedraal
Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.436 - 12 - Matthew Everett0.417 - 8 - Brad C0.399 - 9 - Marco Damiani0.390 - 7 - DJ Martian0.380 - 8 - J3ff T
Ez0.497 - 13 - Pfunkboy0.427 - 10 - Cut_your_ribbon0.420 - 9 - Marco Damiani0.388 - 6 - Alan N0.373 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
EZ Snappin'0.398 - 9 - John Justen0.394 - 9 - A Begrand0.365 - 9 - Pfunkboy0.354 - 7 - Brad C0.350 - 5 - ILXOR (Stephen)
glenn mcdonald0.404 - 6 - John Justen0.346 - 5 - A Begrand0.343 - 5 - Big Hoos0.326 - 5 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.312 - 4 - Don Parsley
ILXOR (Stephen)0.438 - 6 - Colonel Poo0.415 - 8 - Aldo0.378 - 7 - Whiney G0.364 - 7 - Big Hoos0.343 - 7 - John Justen
J3ff T0.489 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.438 - 10 - A Begrand0.380 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.353 - 5 - Ryan random0.352 - 5 - Xhukkx
John Justen0.435 - 10 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.417 - 10 - A Begrand0.413 - 9 - EZ Snappin'0.404 - 6 - glenn mcdonald0.369 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)
jon/via/chicago2.0.0.528 - 14 - A Begrand0.489 - 11 - J3ff T0.464 - 11 - Don Parsley0.441 - 11 - Matthew Everett0.435 - 10 - John Justen
Karl Vesely0.393 - 6 - Pfunkboy0.339 - 5 - DJ Mencap0.296 - 4 - Marco Damiani0.289 - 4 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.271 - 3 - Brad C
Kathedraal0.493 - 13 - Cut_your_ribbon0.478 - 11 - Ryan random0.468 - 13 - Pfunkboy0.382 - 9 - DJ Mencap0.378 - 8 - Whiney G
Marco Damiani0.434 - 10 - Pfunkboy0.410 - 9 - Don Parsley0.405 - 9 - Ez0.388 - 8 - DJ Mencap0.385 - 9 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
Matt Cibula0.372 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.325 - 8 - Matthew Everett0.321 - 4 - Xhukkx0.311 - 7 - Big Hoos0.302 - 7 - A Begrand
Matthew Everett0.556 - 16 - A Begrand0.456 - 10 - Brad C0.441 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.436 - 12 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep0.420 - 12 - Big Hoos
Mordy0.329 - 5 - Big Hoos0.291 - 3 - ILXOR (Stephen)
Pfunkboy0.497 - 13 - Ez0.471 - 13 - Kathedraal0.465 - 10 - Poison Stone0.454 - 6 - Karl Vesely0.450 - 10 - Marco Damiani
Poison Stone0.465 - 10 - Pfunkboy0.369 - 7 - Cut_your_ribbon0.363 - 7 - Kathedraal0.358 - 7 - Ez0.326 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)
Ryan random0.511 - 12 - Cut_your_ribbon0.460 - 11 - Kathedraal0.351 - 8 - Pfunkboy0.339 - 6 - jon/via/chicago2.0.0.337 - 5 - J3ff T
Whiney G0.434 - 7 - Colonel Poo0.394 - 9 - Aldo0.389 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)0.364 - 8 - Kathedraal0.343 - 9 - Matthew Everett
Xhukkx0.352 - 5 - J3ff T0.321 - 4 - Matt Cibula
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link
so glad amon amarth's once sent from the golden hall is being reissued so all you doofuses who have never heard it can finally hear how great it is and realize that they've never made a better record since. and i use the term doofus with the greatest respect.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link
And here are some calculated album similarities based on voter overlap. Note that these involve no outside information or editorial intervention, they are solely produced by simple math, so if some of the association seem strange, blame the voters.
5ive - Hesperus0.486 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum0.478 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.424 - 12 - Torche - Meanderthal0.422 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.417 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.381 - 6 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier0.333 - 5 - Moss - Sub Templum0.305 - 6 - The Goslings - Occasion0.303 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday0.278 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death
Amen Ra - Mass IIII 0.256 - 4 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.372 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed0.361 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.361 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen0.320 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm0.313 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.286 - 5 - Enslaved - Vertebrae0.278 - 4 - Eluveitie - Slania0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal0.246 - 4 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House0.246 - 4 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier0.312 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal0.246 - 4 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
Boris - Smile0.536 - 15 - Torche - Meanderthal0.464 - 8 - Meshuggah - obZen0.452 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.435 - 8 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 10.399 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.388 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed0.380 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.380 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots0.343 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.343 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.343 - 6 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
Caina - Temporary Antennae 0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
Coffins - Buried Death0.328 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution0.244 - 5 - The Goslings - Occasion
Cynic - Traced in Air0.500 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae0.320 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire0.313 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.292 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.263 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile
Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.693 - 16 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal0.600 - 11 - 5ive - Hesperus0.496 - 8 - UFOmammut - Idolum0.493 - 11 - Boris - Smile0.438 - 7 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday0.435 - 8 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale0.435 - 8 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.410 - 8 - The Goslings - Occasion0.407 - 7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier0.407 - 7 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
Earthless - Live at Roadburn 0.337 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
Enslaved - Vertebrae0.530 - 7 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.449 - 7 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.365 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed0.305 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire0.303 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.267 - 4 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale0.403 - 6 - UFOmammut - Idolum0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.261 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.256 - 4 - Darkspace - III0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.473 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae0.435 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.357 - 5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 10.296 - 9 - Torche - Meanderthal0.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.294 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice0.291 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm0.291 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
The Goslings - Occasion0.428 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.427 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots0.338 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal0.314 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.292 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus0.286 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death0.244 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday0.273 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.270 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots0.256 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.693 - 16 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal0.559 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion0.529 - 10 - 5ive - Hesperus0.514 - 9 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.496 - 8 - Coffins - Buried Death0.435 - 8 - Melvins - Nude With Boots0.434 - 10 - Boris - Smile0.407 - 7 - Caina - Temporary Antennae0.407 - 7 - Krallice - Krallice0.407 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum
Intronaut - Prehistoricisms 0.305 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed
Krallice - Krallice0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal0.244 - 5 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.380 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus0.376 - 9 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile0.280 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed0.250 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen
Melvins - Nude With Boots0.407 - 7 - The Goslings - Occasion0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal0.323 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday0.318 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile0.291 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It0.261 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
Meshuggah - obZen0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.368 - 8 - Boris - Smile0.357 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 10.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal0.250 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
Moonspell - Night Eternal 0.278 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
Moss - Sub Templum 0.267 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 10.384 - 11 - Torche - Meanderthal0.362 - 8 - Boris - Smile0.334 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.334 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen0.286 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.286 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice0.257 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.244 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
Opeth - Watershed0.496 - 8 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.473 - 7 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God0.442 - 6 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms0.438 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae0.407 - 7 - Meshuggah - obZen0.371 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air0.350 - 8 - Boris - Smile0.331 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal0.323 - 5 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House0.319 - 6 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
Sunn 0))) - Domkirke0.320 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile
Torche - Meanderthal0.739 - 18 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.739 - 18 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.668 - 15 - Boris - Smile0.605 - 12 - 5ive - Hesperus0.569 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 10.529 - 10 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner0.529 - 10 - Melvins - Nude With Boots0.502 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion0.458 - 9 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh0.455 - 10 - Opeth - Watershed
UFOmammut - Idolum0.398 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus0.361 - 6 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale0.328 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal0.246 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
Unearthly Trance - Electrocution 0.267 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link
you're awesome. are you going to do all this cool stuff for the main ilx poll?
― BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Torche album is pretty bitching. A lot of stuff on here I need to check, and a lot I don't need to check (substandard Boris album, fair to middling Sunn 0)) album, I've never like Attila's vocals, and death metal stuff - I don't like death metal). But at least it's quite a varied lot and not rote.
― Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link
And lastly, I think, like a little minty wafer after pointless gorging, here is the distribution of vote-counts by album:
25 - 119 - 216 - 113 - 112 - 111 - 210 - 59 - 18 - 97 - 26 - 95 - 74 - 123 - 202 - 381 - 790 - 67
I.e., 1 album got 25 votes, 2 got 19, ... 79 albums got only 1 vote each, and 67 nominated albums got no votes.
And here is the distribution of 1-vote albums by voter:
15 - 113 - 16 - 25 - 24 - 13 - 12 - 81 - 60 - 8
I.e., 1 voter (Chuck) had 15 albums nobody else voted for, 1 (DJ Martian) had 13, ... 8 voters didn't vote for anything that nobody else voted for.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link
But no Sunn 0))) ? How weird!!!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that's all I've got. Any questions?
Asva and Sunn 0))) had only three voters in common, so their score fell below my cutoff.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Well if you know the history you will see why it's funny.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
i.e. a certain G. Stuart Dahlquist
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link
G. Stuart Dahlquist - Asva (Former member of Burning Witch, Sunn O))), Goatsnake)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
As a P&J-related footnote, 7 of the voters in this poll (as far as I know) also voted in P&J. Here they are scored by the number of metal albums they had the courage to vote for in a non-metal forum:
3 - A Begrand
Ha, I'm awful.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.0.89 - Brad C
0.89 - Brad C
Note to self, quit reading so many reviews
― Brad C., Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Or reading anything I recommend!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Calculated similarities always produce some funny things. That's part of why I do them. Melvins/Marnie Stern is my favorite one here...
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
You mean so we can see the voter similarity for the unholy Bon Iver-Fleet Foxes-Vampire Weekend trinity?
― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link
or the similarities between corny indie albums and what the lex votes for? awesome!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I shall at some point(tomorrow) tally up what record labels got the most albums people voted for (unless some kind soul does it 1st)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
(that's a hint)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
thread of the year, and i don't even like metal. good job for all involved as this was an awesome poll.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Glad you enjoyed it. Hope lots of people check out lots of the albums mentioned!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll do the labels thing tomorrow then.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I wish more people wrote blurbs for these. Myself included.
― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I missed the Top 10 countdown but I'm pretty happy with results.
Not really a blurb, but I can say I sincerely enjoyed the Nachtmystium album: I found it truly headscratching and I mean this in the best way possible. Its made out of opposite, almost impossible to mix together influences and still its very much Nachtmystium: "Ghosts of Grace" sounds like a black metal Kids of the Black Hole re-write and still it easily rubs shoulders with Pink Floyd-inspired numbers.
― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 24 January 2009 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I wis more people had wrote blurbs too. I did my best though.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Willem have you checked out Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men? that is their true masterpiece
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark
Recently bought and love this record, will now have to finally get their latest one too!
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Top Placing Labels In the Top 50 Vote
Hydra Head 6Profoundlore 4Southern Lord 3Relapse 2Season of Mist 2Prosthetic 2I Hate Records 2Burning World 2Century Media 220 Buck Spin 1Avant Garde 1Crucial Blast 1Gnarled Forest 1Important 1Indie 1Ipecac 1Kill Rock Stars 1Listenable 1Metal Blade 1Moribund 1Not Not Fun 1Nuclear Blast 1Rise Above 1Roadrunner 1Seventh Rule 1Southern 1SPV/Steamhammer 1Sub Pop 1Supernatural Cat 1Tee Pee 1Temporary Residence LTD 1The End Records 1Warner Bros 1
And here for posterity is a repost of the full ballot results.Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album
1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 17 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 0101100180 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
you done good, pfunkboy; this is a terrific thread!
xxp
― Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
seconded.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
or thirded or whatever!
now that the dust has settled, i just want to encourage people (again) to give that Zebulon Pike record a listen. its just epic.
― ass partner are the most disgusting savages in all the world imo (John Justen), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
^good name.
― Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Zebulon Pike are terrific.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
In case anyone is Wondering, No, Geir did not vote.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
how about the lex?
― Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I doubt he was aware the poll existed
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Just in case anyone is wondering I don't have the stats for record labels for the whole poll. I had to do the 50 manually by just running down the top 50 where I actually had posted the record label name.
This thread is lacking Alex In NYC death to false metal posts
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
DEATH TO FALSE METAL
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!1
― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link