The Death of Cinema pt. 94

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dude, the last 'serious' book I read was Nixonland and it took me a year.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

it's a quick read!

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2012/05/17/pandoras-digital-book/

and i guarantee more insight than keanu reeves' documentary.

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

some outtakes from that doc here

http://www.tribecafilm.com/videos/?sortBy=-startDate&11963=1030576

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Neil Young: "Once there was a friend of mine/who died a thousand deaths." (Haven't read this yet, haven't decided if I will.)

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/28/is_movie_culture_dead/

clemenza, Friday, 28 September 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

"there's a lot of handwringing about the death of cinema so here is an article where i handwring about the death of the cinema."

really it's just a blender of TV IS MORE DISSCUSSED and that NYFF doesn't matter anymore and the cultural elites don't dictate the wider discussion

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 28 September 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

Just noticed that our Landmark franchise here--which resides in perhaps Houston's last movie palace that actually still shows movies--has gone all digital for new releases.

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hungry Hungry Hippos, which debuted in 1978, is a game in which players compete with plastic hippos to swallow marbles off of a board.

shit i've been playing it wrong

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

ha

Number None, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

My twitter feed these days has basically become a daily report of digital/DLP critics' screenings gone awry.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

do tell!

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Every day, digital/DLP critics' screenings go awry.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

haha

there is no dana, only (goole), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

great story

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

It's even better in yfrog form.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

"Old" movies to look like video forevermore....

In June, director Martin Scorsese tried to show his 1993 film The Age of Innocence at the Museum of the Moving Image in Queens. Thelma Schoonmaker, Scorsese's editor for the past 40 years and a three-time Oscar winner, called Grover Crisp, the senior VP of asset management at Sony, for a 35mm print. But Sony not only didn't have a print, it couldn't even make one.

"He told me that they can't print it anymore because Technicolor in Los Angeles no longer prints film," Schoonmaker recalled. "Which means a film we made 20 years ago can no longer be printed, unless we move it to another lab—one of the few labs still making prints."

..."I was used to hearing, oh well, maybe films made in the '40s or '50s, but our film?" Schoonmaker said, referring to titles that have become unavailable. "And it's not the only one of our films that is in this situation. What really worries me are the lesser-known movies."

And film buffs are worried not just about the lack of digitized titles, but how they are being converted. Schoonmaker for one has been appalled by some of the digital "restorations" she's screened.

"I saw a digitized version of a film that David Lean made during World War II, and it looked just like a TV commercial that was shot yesterday," she said. "It was wrong, the balance was completely off. Originally it had a slightly muted look, and now here were all these insanely bright blues."

Schoonmaker believes that the colorists who have been trained in the last 10 or 15 years "have no idea what these movies should look like anymore."

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/11/with-35mm-film-dead-will-classic-movies-ever-look-the-same-again/265184/

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

I don't want the endless stream of those articles over the years to get me down, but boy do they get me down.

Gukbe, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Countdown to the death of "the death of Cinema" articles.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Not really about the "death" of cinema, but Steven Spielberg thinks the Hollywood system is about to "implode," and everyone has some thoughts...

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-spielberg-lucas-and-that-imminent-implosion

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 June 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

just read this annoyingly-written snippet of a memoir and it seemed relevant: http://www.salon.com/2013/06/15/lynda_obst_hollywoods_completely_broken/singleton/

Gukbe, Sunday, 16 June 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I had no use for it but RIP anyway

Dr. Winston O'Boogie Chillen' (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 July 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

Seitz interviews Godfrey Cheshire, 15 years after the Death of Film/Decay of Cinema articles:

http://www.rogerebert.com/mzs/death-of-filmdecay-of-cinema-at-15-a-conversation-with-godfrey-cheshire

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 1 August 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link

Great dialogue there; I've always loved G.C. to death.

For starters, I definitely read Four Arguments For the Elimination of Television at the start of the '80s, maybe for a media class.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 August 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Nick Pinkerton on the ramping up of the war for 35mm Survival:

I won’t deny that there is a sentimental element to 35mm partisanship, for this is a format that will age and show wear, as we do, and finally die, as we must. For a moment, watching Deathdream in Yonkers, I even indulged in the fancy that I might be watching the same print I’d seen 14 years ago at Dayton’s Neon Movies, when Dr. Creep still crept among the living. Certainly there was nostalgia aplenty in the first round of eulogies for film which came in 2011, when the first-run theatrical changeover was already well underway and Ebert declared “my war is over, my side lost, and it’s important to consider this in the real world”—but also a fair amount of cautious optimism. I even expressed as much at the time.

My optimism has lessened in direct proportion to my practical experience of the Brave New DCP World. For all the rep calendar ballyhoo about “glorious,” “stunning” new 4K restorations, we seem to be about on par with the Victorians when they started restoring Renaissance paintings to blindingly bright palettes meant, quite inaccurately as it happens, to reflect their original splendor. (Wiseman’s National Gallery is instructive viewing on this matter, and on the matter of contextualizing exhibition.) League writes, “With digital presentation, the movie looks as good at the first screening as it does after playing for months,” but this presupposes that the movie looks good in the first place, as opposed to merely freshly scrubbed. If it doesn’t? Tough titties, you’ll be looking at it on DCP for the foreseeable future anyways, because any print is safely sealed away miles beneath the earth’s crust.

http://filmcomment.com/entry/bombast-35-stayin-alive

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

last 35mm lab in NYC shuts down

http://www.playboy.com/articles/last-nyc-film-processing-lab-closes-end-of-an-era

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Yes, 2014 movies shot on film look amazing. But movies from the '70s, '80s, '90s, '00s, and '10s need 35mm to survive. Dean Plionis, director of operations for Colorlab, a New York City-based film company that processes 35mm in its Maryland facility while specializing in film archiving and restoration, believes that when it comes down to the scientific facts of degradation and human error, film trumps digital. Remember Zip Drives? That storage method that spiked in popularity in the late '90s? Imagine finding one today. Could you get the information off? Can you imagine mining its data in another 50 years? It's hard to imagine losing the digital files of The Avengers, but evolving encodings, algorithms, and proprietary software could make them impossible to read in 100 years.

^^^this is the biggest issue imo

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

It's hard to imagine losing the digital files of The Avengers

But we can all try nonetheless.

Eric H., Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

yeah the instant obsolesence of digital media and the need to keep shifting among formats and storage hardware is a major issue for archives in the present and future

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

whereas, you make a print, and keep it in climate-controlled storage, you're good for a century or longer

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

btw can i just say how much i hate the neologism "digital print"?

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

as in, "we're showing a restored digital print of 'jaws' next week!"

also, the debasement of the word "restored"

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

"i ran this movie through one of those computer things—it's restored!"

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

^ agreed with all that.

with film dying (or dead already), the future belongs to colorists.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

put a fork in it, it's done

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

the future of film now depends on Jay Jay Abrams and a new Star Wars sequel. hope it's a home-run in that regard. i'm ok with digital behind the dominant method of production in the industry, but it doesn't mean film has to die completely.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Eric, best post ever

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Remember Zip Drives? That storage method that spiked in popularity in the late '90s? Imagine finding one today.

This guy should come work in my office. Not that I've ever been enabled to open one.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

Watched Reggio's Visitors today. Digital copy. Not good enough resolution, distracting throughout the whole film. Then went and saw The Emperors Naked Army Marches On in a 35mm print flown in from Japan. Boy, did that look amazing, even though it was old. Dunno, at times I'm a format fascist. It really isn't the same.

Frederik B, Thursday, 6 November 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

i like the shimmer of 35mm in projection; it's hard to recreate in digital projection even when the film was shot/post analog

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link

hmm, i cant decide whether to see a 70mm screening of 2001 at the BFI next month, or the new digital 'restoration'. for some reason i imagine a film like 2001 might benefit from DCP. sci-fi was surely meant to be seen as pristinely as possible, no?

StillAdvance, Friday, 7 November 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

I'd go for 70 mm. Can't imagine the warm colours of 2001 will be helped by digital.

Frederik B, Friday, 7 November 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link

i want to see it the way the maker made it

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 November 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

Actually, I reconsider. I love digital. Saw a few digital films, Konchalovsky's The Postman's White Nights and the new one from the Harvard Ehtnography/Sensory Lab, The Iron Ministry, and I love how they look. Postman's White Nights capture a beautiful northern russian light, cold and strange, and Iron ministry has the grains, the hues, and the shakes of cheap digital almost guerilla filmmaking. I absolutely love it. On the other hand, I saw a film promotes as 4K, transcendental, overwhelming, and it just looked like a nature program on bbc. Mainstream digital, supposedly more clear, more clean, is horrible, all character removed to create smooth, vanilla, blandness. So mediocre, so dull.

Frederik B, Sunday, 9 November 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/paul_schrader_interview_filmmaker_talks_dying_of_the_light_absent_friends.html

Paul Schrader:

You made a movie recently, The Canyons, which was funded through Kickstarter and released on demand, as well as in theaters. Do those new avenues make you more optimistic about the future of film?

PS: Everything’s up for grabs. It’s exciting in that way—unless you’re wedded to the 20th-century concept of a projected image in a dark room in front of a paying audience. If you’re wedded to that concept, you’re in trouble, because that concept is dead.

I’m guessing you’re not wedded to that concept. Some filmmakers seem nostalgic and very invested in 35mm projection.

PS: I’m not. It’s all revanchist claptrap. The goal of art is not to tell people what tools they want to use, but to use whatever tools are around. The tools are always changing and the artists need to change with the tools. We didn’t have movies 100 years ago, and we did quite fine without them, and now they’re going to become something else again.

slam dunk, Saturday, 22 November 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://grantland.com/features/2014-hollywood-blockbusters-franchises-box-office/
this is a good article but seriously is it completely impossible that audiences will burn out on dc/marvel/etc, leading to successively lower box office tallies and leaving executives desperate to throw money at other stuff?

slam dunk, Friday, 19 December 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

What the movie industry is about, in 2014, is creating a sense of anticipation in its target audience that is so heightened, so nurtured, and so constant that moviegoers are effectively distracted from how infrequently their expectations are actually satisfied. Movies are no longer about the thing; they’re about the next thing, the tease, the Easter egg, the post-credit sequence, the promise of a future at which the moment we’re in can only hint.

this is a very salient point imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 December 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link

eg. The ILX Star Wars thread will only die once the film is actually released and everyone realises that they don't even wanna go and pay money to see this piece of shit garbage film for kids.

everything, Friday, 19 December 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

wishful thinking but yea that is not happening

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Day after it comes out there's going to be a spike of activity in the "Depression and what it's really like" thread. Guaranteed.

everything, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link


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