I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

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Just saw Romney and Ryan are being interviewed together on 60 Minutes tonight. Will tune in.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 12 August 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

18% of Americans saying they would not vote for a well-qualified candidate who happened to be Mormon, according to a Gallup Poll released Thursday.

bet a lot of them would consider it if that mormon's opponent were a muslim alinskyite, among other things

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 August 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

I think it says a lot about the progress we've made as a nation that it will be down to a Mormon vs. a Muslim.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

(Irony: non-Muslim that detractors think is a secret Muslim vs. real Mormon that said Mormon probably wants to keep quiet.)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

p. sure you meant black panther vs. bigamist

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

the guy who secretly hates white people -vs- the guy who secretly has to hate black people according to ancient mormon law

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

tbf it comes more naturally to many americans than 'ancient' law

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously. Visiting home and talking to ppl is like a one-woman consciousness-raising comedy act.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

One in which the laffs come from watching me take a lot of deep breaths.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

did you get raves y/n

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

I give myself a 10 every time someone says something slightly less prejudiced than last time.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

progress via art <3

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

oh yah i was just talking about their secret religious reasons for hating people. obama the muslim and romney the mormon.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

4 out of 10 people still don't know romney is mormon according to that poll thing on cnn. i kinda wonder how it will come up in debates and stuff like that. will he have to answer questions about the angel moroni and the golden plates?

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120112080943AAeWFIV

buzza, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

i want him to answer questions about the posthumous baptism of holocaust victims

running like a young deer (symsymsym), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

it always kinda boggles my mind that recent american religions can actually travel to other countries. i don't know why. just the idea of asian or swiss scientologists and mormons seems so weird to me. it seems like such an american thing.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

weirder than baseball in japan?

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

yes, totally. sports always travel around the world. all kinds of sports.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

its normal for my kids to take kung fu lessons every week, but it would probably be a little more unusual if we went to a shinto shrine every week. uh, cuz i don't think there are any near us? but just more unusual for westerners in general probably.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

From the time he was a child in Peru, the Mormon Church instilled in Jose A. Loayza the conviction that he and millions of other Native Americans were descended from a lost tribe of Israel that reached the New World more than 2,000 years ago.

"We were taught all the blessings of that Hebrew lineage belonged to us and that we were special people," said Loayza, now a Salt Lake City attorney. "It not only made me feel special, but it gave me a sense of transcendental identity, an identity with God."

A few years ago, Loayza said, his faith was shaken and his identity stripped away by DNA evidence showing that the ancestors of American natives came from Asia, not the Middle East.

"I've gone through stages," he said. "Absolutely denial. Utter amazement and surprise. Anger and bitterness."

buzza, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

There's the Peace Pagoda tho, Scott! xp

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

It's in Leverett

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

but even there its an ancient eastern religion and ancient stuff makes more sense to me. stuff invented in the last couple hundred years traveling to ancient countries and being embraced always seems weird to me.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

yeah there are plenty of hippie places and buddhist places around here i'm sure. but that seems more normal than a japanese person embracing L. ron hubbard! but hey whatever floats your boat.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

actually there are moonies here in town. little girls always come into my store trying to sell me their godawful homemade jewelry.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

recent korean thing that made it big in america. not a lot of those.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

I have a friend who is big in to K-pop

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

well anyway i'm voting for obama if that makes anybody feel better

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

there is a pretty good korean restaurant here in town.

scott seward, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

Really really wish Obama had pushed something like Isabell Sawhill's suggested entitlement changes or even the Bowles/Simpson recommendations. To not suggest anything was ceding the idea high-ground to the ideologues of the Right.

Maybe you missed it but there was this little thing called The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare which was largely designed to address the major looming entitlement problem aka health care?

o. nate, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

all i know is i'm making sure to vote this election. just in case, ya know? god help us all if that asshat romney wins!

messiahwannabe, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure whether a vote for obama or a vote for romney will troll morbz more so i'm going to hold out in some sort of schrodinger's troll where the intention to vote for both is true until i enter the booth and then the quantum whatever collapses

Mordy, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm gonna write in a vote for morbs for school board

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

is "Dr. Morbius" yr legal name

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Monday, 13 August 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

Dr. Michael Morbius was created in response to the comic-book industry's self-censorship board, the Comics Code Authority, lifting its ban on vampires and certain other supernatural characters in February 1971, and not as a challenge to the code, as many believe.[1] Writer Roy Thomas and penciler Gil Kane created the character as a living man who is given vampiric abilities via scientific rather than supernatural means.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

one of the best comics, but not where Morbs takes his name from I'd guess

http://thecampofthesaints.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/forbidden-planet-dr-morbius-01.jpg

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 13 August 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Spidermanep19.jpg

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

vote for who you like, not a speck of the universe shall take note

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

this is how anarchism ends, not with a bang, but a troll

da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

i hope my district election officials take note!

goole, Monday, 13 August 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

who are you going to trust? noted misogynist erick erickson's gut feeling - http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/06/the-alternative-universe-and-the-media-feedback-loop/ - or every poll that has been released to date

Mordy, Thursday, 6 September 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

TOO MANY THREADS

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Thursday, 6 September 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

this thread is primarily for democrat voters to feel nervous about an election that is practically a foregone conclusion. other threads are for other things!

btw, on that topic, nate writes:

But that isn’t how you draw these things up. You don’t want your chances to come down to the residual chance of a polling error or an October surprise. You want to be ahead after your party convention — not just tied, something that even Walter F. Mondale had (very briefly) managed to do in 1984.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/sept-4-the-simple-case-for-why-obama-is-the-favorite/

Mordy, Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

I’m on record repeatedly doubting Mitt Romney’s viability as a candidate, but more and more I think not only is Romney winning, but the polling is not reflecting the strength of his campaign and the media is actually sabotaging the Democrats’ chance of winning. In fact, I dare say if MItt Romney wins he will have the American media to thank for his win. Hear me out and I think you will agree.

First, and I realize you will have to take my word for it, I have a pretty good gut check on winning and losing. My gut tells me Mitt Romney is doing better than I expected and better than the polling is suggesting. Anecdotes are not data, but more and more a steady stream of anecdotes are piling up to suggest Romney is winning.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

"Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan" is an anagram of "My ultimate Ayn Rand porn"

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Anecdotes are not data, but more and more a steady stream of anecdotes are piling up to suggest Romney is winning.

haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

Based on Facebook posts, I predict an exact tie.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

I remember a lot of these 'anecdotes' floating around in 2008 -- around this time, as a matter of fact. K-Lo went to town with them.

And then, of course, there was the ultimate in shiny baubles thanks to Sarah P. Paul Ryan, no.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link


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