Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

i mean obv plenty of mid-seventies rock bands w/ a fondness for cocaine went disco, but it's always seemed to me that the dead took an awful lot of cues from the band (not that they were alone in that, either)

CCR had such a great run over a short space of time and I've never heard any Band albums past the first two but I recently watched the 'Classic Albums' episode on the s/t and I came around to thinking that it really is one of the 20 or so best records ever, just a towering achievement of songwriting and musical interplay. So I think I'm voting The Band.

As for the Dead, I've tried to get into them, on paper they should be right up my street but nothing I've heard really clicks with me - I don't hate them by any means, I'm just indifferent.

All 3 have a lot going for them, but for me it's The Band >> CCR >>>> The Dead.
And as I've said on other threads, my love for The Band is mainly based on the first 2 albums but y'know, it's a hell of a first 2 albums.

CCR choogled. No other band, ever, choogled. Voted CCR.

i have to admit i've never understood 'choogling', it sounds like something thomas the tank engine would do

Thomas he's the cheeky one
James is vain but lots of fun
Percy pulls the mail on time
Gordon choogles down the line

they're the really useful CCRew

speaking of trains though, Casey Jones kinda choogles.

Nope

Choogleometer says: NO

I think a well chosen 80-minute CDR of each would be enough for me for life, but in frequency of listening to those CDRs it'd be Band/CCR (tie) >>>>>>> Dead. I do love Grayfolded though.

Flipped a coin and voted The Band.

The take of "Big Railroad Blues" on The Grateful Dead aka Skullfuck choogles like a mother.
Don't worry, I still voted CCR.

I think the Dead are attempting to choogle on "Turn On Your Lovelight" on this '68 show I'm listening to. Christ do I ever hate "Turn On Your Lovelight"

Yeah, you know, that's probably one of my least favorite of theirs.

^ *covers ears* La-la-la I'm not listening to you.

i would be safely in the pro-lovelight camp if pigpen's monologues didn't often sound like he was exhorting members of the audience to carry out some sort of sexual assault

DOOT DOOT DOOOOOOOO I'm not listening to you xpost

My equivalent of "Lovelight" for CCR would be their "Grapevine" cover. I know many people love it--to me, it runs counter to everything that's great about CCR.

ditto.

i would be safely in the pro-lovelight camp if pigpen's monologues didn't often sound like he was exhorting members of the audience to carry out some sort of sexual assault

lol, total truth bomb. it's a shame, cos some of the looong lovelights have really great garcia solos on 'em.

xpost Yeah, compare what Creedence does to the Marvin Gaye song with how the Dead murders the Merle Haggard. CCR turns this perfect pop song into an ecstatic jam, the Dead stretch Merle out into a dirge.

See, CCRs Grapevine feels like a dirge to me.

Suzy Q and Spell on You were good, but Grapevine scrapes across my ears and is no fun at all to listen to.

CCR's Grapevine is a stalker's lament.

All of their covers kind of blow. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would ever try to cover I Put a Spell on You.

rock bands did covers back then.

Oh come on, Suzy Q is bad ass.
That part where the spooky "oooo" vocals come in rules.

The "Spell" cover is worth it for Fogerty's singing and solo alone.

As a kid, this is what sent me back to CCR deep cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_u95VjPVyA

"Susie Q" I really like. And, my indifference towards "Grapevine" notwithstanding, Creedence had no trouble pulling off long songs--besides "Ramble Tamble," there was also "Effigy."

rock bands did covers back then.

covers are great, I've got no problem with them. But I Put a Spell on You is one of the greatest records ever made and Fogerty's voice pales in comparison to Hawkins. Their Suzie Q is good but doesn't really add anything to the other Hawkins version imo.

guys i'm back from vacation. i was in portland. answer to this poll is the decembrists.

the decemberists vs literally every other band ever (POLL)

i mean if any band combines the good parts of CCR, the band and the dead it's the decembrists. maybe fleet foxes, i'm not sure.

hey tyler!

i mean really they should win the rush vs yes vs zappa poll too

ha... I was just babbling to a friend that the Decemberists are so popular in the pacific NW since they're sort of a surrogate Grateful Dead for all the people who still need their jugband mountain music

heyyyy!
lol i don't know about that. is there actually deadhead/meloyhead crossover?
anyway i don't know about this poll. band had the best albums (well, the first two) and the best singers, creedence had the best singles, dead had the best live shows.

nah, just my own crackpot theory - both bands sort of project that same old-timey fetishism that Portlanders squirt their pants over

they were playing the decemberists in my hotel elevator in portland.

^^opening line of my forthcoming travel guide to the great state of Oregon.

wonder if this poll comes down to robertson vs. fogerty vs. garcia
if it was just THE BAND we were talking about, they might be easy to discount, but the Dylan association pushes them pretty close to the top. the Live 1966 stuff is basically the best. and so are the basement tapes.

heyyyy!
lol i don't know about that. is there actually deadhead/meloyhead crossover?
anyway i don't know about this poll. band had the best albums (well, the first two) and the best singers, creedence had the best singles, dead had the best live shows.

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wasn't meloy in an obscure alt-country/jammish band prior to decemberists?

i love all three of these bands but i am voting creedence because i have probably listened to ccr more than almost any band on earth. except maybe fleetwood mac.

xp think it was like a uncle tupelo kinda band -- don't know if it was jammy. why are we talking about the decemberists? oh right, i brought them up.

yes re: Meloy's previous band. I work next to their former manager.

decemberists vs. the perth county conspiracy vs. the grateful dead vs. rush

vs. ccr vs. fleetwood mac

vs. the flying burrito brothers

http://faintlyblowing.blogspot.com/2008/08/perth-county-conspiracy-does-not-exist.html

^^ the decemberists of 1970 imo, except the record rules