The CaterPOLLar -- ILM Artist Poll #23 -- The Cure -- voting thread

OK GUYS OK

I think I've figured out a full-on longlist up to 2001, in chronological order - anyone let me know if I'm missing anything?

(and DJP feel free to do an extension for the 2004-2008 period! I would have included Da Hype and Not In Love and Take Forever and Please if they were in the purview of the poll, cos I love them all, but.)

Demos that ONLY came out on the remasters aren't included; demos that were formally released or broadcast or put on official website thingies are; only-played-live songs that had legit release somewhere are also included. Cult Hero and Cogasm included bcz they were essentially legit Cure lineups of that respective month (certainly more so than The Glove). Covers would have been excluded but Nate's OP seems to welcome them.

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1978 Killing An Arab
1978 10:15 Saturday Night

1979 Boys Don't Cry
1979 Plastic Passion
1979 Pillbox Tales
1979 Do The Hansa

1977 Heroin Face [LIVE ONLY] (live in The Rocket, Crawley, December 1977 - first available on Curiosity)

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1979 Accuracy
1979 Grinding Halt
1979 Another Day
1979 Object
1979 Subway Song
1979 Foxy Lady
1979 Meathook
1979 So What
1979 Fire in Cairo
1979 It's Not You
1979 Three Imaginary Boys
1979 ~ The Weedy Burton

1979 Jumping Someone Else's Train
1979 I'm Cold

1979 [CULT HERO] I'm A Cult Hero
1979 [CULT HERO] I Dig You

1980 World War

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1980 A Forest
1980 Another Journey by Train

1980 "A Reflection" – 2:09
1980 "Play for Today" – 3:39
1980 "Secrets" – 3:20
1980 "In Your House" – 4:07
1980 "Three" – 2:36
1980 "The Final Sound" – 0:53
1980 "M" – 3:03
1980 "At Night" – 5:54
1980 "Seventeen Seconds" – 4:02

1980 Forever [LIVE ONLY - variation on Three]

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1981 Primary
1981 Descent

1981 "The Holy Hour" – 4:25
1981 "Other Voices" – 4:28
1981 "All Cats Are Grey" – 5:28
1981 "The Funeral Party" – 4:14
1981 "Doubt" – 3:11
1981 "The Drowning Man" – 4:50
1981 "Faith" – 6:43

1981 "Carnage Visors" – 27:51

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1981 "Charlotte Sometimes"
1981 "Splintered in Her Head"

1982 "One Hundred Years"
1982 "A Short Term Effect"
1982 "The Hanging Garden"
1982 "Siamese Twins"
1982 "The Figurehead"
1982 "A Strange Day"
1982 "Cold"
1982 "Pornography"

1982 "Airlock: The Soundtrack" – 13:07

1982 "All Mine" [LIVE ONLY - variation on Forever]

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1982 Lament [Flexipop version]

1982 Let's Go to Bed
1982 Just One Kiss

1983 "The Walk"
1983 "Lament"
1983 "The Upstairs Room
1983 "The Dream"

1984 "The Love Cats"
1984 "Speak My Language"
1984 "Mr. Pink Eyes"

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1983 [THE GLOVE] "Like an Animal"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Looking Glass Girl"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Sex-Eye-Make-Up"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Mr. Alphabet Says"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "A Blues in Drag"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Punish Me with Kisses"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "This Green City"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Orgy"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Perfect Murder"
1983 [THE GLOVE] "Relax"
1983 [THE GLOVE - b-side] "Mouth to Mouth"
1983 [THE GLOVE - b-side] "The Tightrope"

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1984 "The Caterpillar"
1984 "Happy The Man"
1984 "Throw Your Foot"
1984 New Day

1984 "Shake Dog Shake"
1984 "Bird Mad Girl"
1984 "Wailing Wall"
1984 "Give Me It"
1984 "Dressing Up"
1984 "Piggy in the Mirror"
1984 "The Empty World"
1984 "Bananafishbones"
1984 "The Top"


1984 "Ariel" (Robert Smith home demo) – 2:58

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1985 In Between Days
1985 The Exploding Boy
1985 A Few Hours After This

1985 "Kyoto Song"
1985 "The Blood"
1985 "Six Different Ways"
1985 "Push"
1985 "The Baby Screams"
1985 Close To Me
1985 "A Night Like This"
1985 "Screw"
1985 "Sinking"

1985 A Man Inside My Mouth
1985 Stop Dead

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1987 Why Can't I Be You?
1987 A Japanese Dream

1987 "The Kiss"
1987 "Catch"
1987 "Torture"
1987 "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep"
1987 "How Beautiful You Are..."
1987 "Snakepit"
1987 "Hey You!"
1987 "Just Like Heaven"
1987 "All I Want"
1987 "Hot Hot Hot!!!"
1987 "One More Time"
1987 "Like Cockatoos"
1987 "Icing Sugar"
1987 "The Perfect Girl"
1987 "A Thousand Hours"
1987 "Shiver and Shake"
1987 "Fight"

1987 Breathe
1987 A Chain Of Flowers
1987 Snow In Summer
1987 Sugar Girl

1987 To The Sky

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1989 Lullaby
1989 Babble
1989 Out Of Mind


1989 "Plainsong"
1989 "Pictures of You"
1989 "Closedown"
1989 "Lovesong"
1989 "Last Dance"
1989 "Fascination Street"
1989 "Prayers for Rain"
1989 "The Same Deep Water as You"
1989 "Disintegration"
1989 "Homesick"
1989 "Untitled"

1989 2 Late
1989 Fear Of Ghosts

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1989 Pirate Ships (Robert Smith solo) [Rough vocal mix – 12/89]

1990 Hello, I Love You

1990 Never Enough
1990 Harold & Joe

1991 Uyea Sound (Thompson) – 5:29
1991 Cloudberry (Smith) – 5:25
1991 Off to Sleep (Gallup) – 3:47
1991 The Three Sisters (Bamonte) – 4:10

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1992 High
1992 This Twilight Garden
1992 Play

1992 Open – 6:51
1992 Apart – 6:40
1992 From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea – 7:44
1992 Wendy Time – 5:13
1992 Doing the Unstuck – 4:24
1992 Friday I'm in Love – 3:39
1992 Trust – 5:33
1992 A Letter to Elise – 5:14
1992 Cut – 5:55
1992 To Wish Impossible Things – 4:43
1992 End – 6:46

1992 Halo
1992 Scared As You
1992 The Big Hand
1992 A Foolish Arrangement

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1993 Purple Haze

1994 Burn

1994 Young Americans

1995 Dredd Song

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1996 The 13th
1996 It Used to Be Me
1996 Adonais
1996 Ocean

1996 Want – 5:06
1996 Club America – 5:02
1996 This Is a Lie – 4:29
1996 Strange Attraction – 4:19
1996 Mint Car – 3:32
1996 Jupiter Crash – 4:15
1996 Round & Round & Round – 2:39
1996 Gone! – 4:31
1996 Numb – 4:49
1996 Return – 3:28
1996 Trap – 3:37
1996 Treasure – 3:45
1996 Bare – 7:57

1996 Home
1996 Waiting
1996 A Pink Dream

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1997 Wrong Number
1997 [COGASM] A Sign From God

1998 More Than This

1998 World In My Eyes

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2000 Maybe Someday
2000 Coming Up
2000 Possession
2000 Spilt Milk

2000 Out of This World
2000 Watching Me Fall
2000 Where the Birds Always Sing
2000 The Last Day of Summer
2000 There Is No If...
2000 The Loudest Sound
2000 39
2000 Bloodflowers

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2001 Cut Here
2001 Just Say Yes
2001 Signal To Noise

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(Sorry for some inconsistencies with quotes and times.)

Mine

TIB/BDC - 6
SS - 3
Faith - 2
Porno - 2
Top - 2
THOTD - 4
JW - 1
KMx3 - 4
D - 4
B sides etc - 12

So going by sics list I've got 2 from 1990, but none from later than that which suggests that once I'd got into them circa Kiss Me x3 I only liked them for 3/4 years which seems wrong to me. Obviously I had 8/9 years to work back from luckily.

Oh man sic, you don't want me to get any work done today, do you

I'm Cold is really good; I should've bumped it much higher than I did.

I think the first b-side I heard that just didn't click with me was "Sugar Girl"

Finally did this. Surprised myself with some of my choices, but knew before I started what my #1 would be.

Oh man sic, you don't want me to get any work done today, do you

lol I stayed back for two hours to work on and post that

I really want to jump into that but I have a demo to run in an hour and meetings in the afternoon and basically fuck you, job (not really tho, need that paycheck)

I'm really looking forward to rolling these results out, such a diverse selection of songs at the top of everyone's ballots.

Completely forgot about Cult Hero! "I Dig You" might have made my ballot.

If "In Your House" had remained "Two People" it would have easily been on my ballot

http://youtu.be/Hlpk0rtmHZo

Nate, can you confirm you got mine please? Ta.

I've replied to every ballot I've received so if you have't had an email off my you should resend. I've just replied to the most recent ballot, is your name Al** St*****? Sorry, I don't know the real names of most of the people itt.

Yeah, that's me. Just checked and an email arrived just after I posted. Thanks!

I'll send my ballot sometime this weekend, I've picked and ranked the songs but I'm still tweaking here and there (taking full advantage of the deadline extension).

I originally wasn't going to submit a videos list, partly because I don't think The Cure made any exceptionally good videos. The five on my list are more or less the only ones I like.

ok, i'm starting this...i think i will have 75 songs and than go from there.

i came up with 43 album tracks but i need b-sides. i think i went about this wrong...

I originally wasn't going to submit a videos list, partly because I don't think The Cure made any exceptionally good videos.

Really?? Most of their Tim Pope collaborations were creative, original, and fun IMO. Especially compared to other bands from the era, like U2, Bon Jovi, The Cult, Def Leppard, who mostly were just filmed on stage. I guess their videos weren't as stylish as Depeche Mode, but they weren't so SERIOUS.

when is the new deadline again?

i finally have forty but i'm killing myself over the order, i should just send it but i want to be sure.

Midday UK time, Wednesday the 15th.

Really?? Most of their Tim Pope collaborations were creative, original, and fun IMO.

Yeah many of them were as formulaic as the "serious" videos you mentioned. Bon Jovi videos = we're huge rock stars, watch us play on stage and see how much people cheer for us ... Cure videos = watch us frolic around and throw/push/paint things. And there were plenty of Cure videos where they were just playing the song somewhere, albeit on the side of a cliff or in a balloon, which is clearly an upgrade over the Def Lep/Bon Jovi stuff. That's not to say I don't like some of their videos, but they were recycling a lot of their ideas too.

yeah and all the songs are like playing some music and then having some other instruments play some more music and then usually singing on top, ugh get some new ideas guys

you know what, "Lost" is a totally bad-ass song; the whole slow creep mixed in with the ramping up of the vocal line and how it goes higher and higher with each restatement of the verse as the music swirls together in a dissonant vortex, the bitter venom Robert is spitting by the end of the song until everything kind of deflates into hollow wistfulness... how the whole thing swings from disassociation into fury and back into timid realization

fukkin love that song

I hope I'm not giving too much away to say it's going to need a lot of love before Wednesday if it's going to make the top 100.

;_; it couldn't find itself

DJP's #1 was "my computer"

still super pissed that I forgot about "Burn" and "Carnage Visors"

Ballot sent. The video list was the hardest part because I had a hard time choosing which of my 6 faves to exclude. :-(

i finishing this tonight...help me.

Less than 24 hours to go, 26 ballots received. Happy with that.

I haven't done mine yet.

plz put "Carnage Visors" at #1

I've got down to 86 songs.

I missed this one — are you still accepting ballots?

There is time! Vote.

my "shortlist" was something like 95 songs? and I still wanted to vote for them all

and I still forgot 2 off of it, at least one of which had a very good chance of being on my ballot

Yeah voting is still open, til midday UK tomorrow.

I know this poll is going to end up reinforcing Cure orthodoxy and all of the big placers will be pop singles, but I'm super interested in the early stages to see what, if any, bizarro songs place

also this is a pre-emptive "you all have terrible taste" in anticipation of "Push" making the top 20

Haha, that was my #2.

Is it really about catching the train to Brighton while wearing a dress? Or was Robert taking the piss?

I've never been less sure about my ballot in these single artist polls. There were so many things I wanted to vote for, I kept waffling on the rankings ... kicking myself already for leaving certain songs off my ballot ("Trust", "High", "All Cats Are Grey" ...)

you will get mine in about 12 hours, i need to go to work. still working the video list but pretty much done.

HOW THE HELL COULD YOU LEAVE "ALL CATS ARE GREY" OFF OF YOUR BALLOT

seriously, that was one of five songs that were absolutely no question destined to be on my ballot

Considering I scrambled at the last minute to get this together, I'm pretty pleased with my ballot. I didn't have to relisten to much because I know the band pretty well anyway. Still, I even surprised myself when I found a genuine obscurity had made it into my top ten.

Here's my breakdown of albums and how many songs off each made my list:

Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry — 4
Seventeen Seconds — 3
Faith — 3
Pornography — 2
The Walk EP/Japanese Whispers — 3
The Top — 1
The Head on the Door — 5
Kiss Me — 2
Disintegration — 2
Mixed Up — 0
Wish — 3
Wild Mood Swings — 1
Bloodflowers — 2
The Cure — 2
4:13 Dream — 0
Non-album/b-sides — 7

Funny other things I just realized:
Wish barely scraped my top albums picks at #5, but three Wish (or Wish-related songs) are in my top ten.
Disintegration did not make my top albums list.
A song from the self-titled album made my top ten. I hate that album, how did THAT happen?

Really hope I got my ballot in on time. This was fun. Can't wait to see the final tally.

~Austin

Listening to THOTD in its remastered form, which I received in the mail a few hours ago, I'm thinking the only dud is "Six Different Ways." Every song is distinct, opening a door to a genre excursion on which the band could have gone.

The Head on the Door really is a great piece of work. They managed to pack so much, so well, into such a great, concentrated package.

I like 'Six Different Ways.' Although, it did take me hearing the great Peel Session recording of it to fully appreciate it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjgvXuSGQF4

Scatting, squealing vocals Bob at his best.

got my list down to 70, just dropped Carnage Visors, RIP DJP

;_;

it's really sad, it was gothy rose-tinted glasses

says the guy who just heard subdivisions