Conservative Music / Conservative Politics

He had a reality show on VH1 I saw a commercial for where people had to live Nuge-style for a given amount of time.

If not
I think the only thing we learned here is that politics have
fuck-all to do with music tastes.

class warriordom = an excuse for small-c conservatism in 99.9% of cases. that really is all I have to say on the matter.

i like both nick and robin so i'm keeping well out of this - but just to clarify...

nick, claiming to understand their culture better than they do without having ever experienced it first hand

doesnt this tie into the recent relevancy and grime threads? While you didnt claim to do this, you did seem to dismiss the role of culture in those threads? the subjectivist position you took there, wouldnt that render the argument in italics invalid?

Robin's accusations have upset me more than anything else I've come across on ILX that I can remember. His first reference to me (and Dom) on his blog blindsided me; I'd never read Robin's stuff before and wasn't really aware of who he was outside of an occasional poster here, so to suddenly find myself specifically mentioned by name as being a conservative, or whatever he was insinuating, was a shock, as I'm sure it was for Dom (who pointed out the initial reference to me) and Dave. To be equated with the BNP and therefore fascism when Robin has never, to my knowledge, communicated with me in any way, certainly never beyond the confines of a fucking internet messageboard, is something I can neither understand or countenance. I feel like I'm being demonised (by one person whom I do not know) and I have no idea what for. It's not just upsetting; it's offensive. Two of my best friends are black (I know that's an awful fucking faux-liberal cliché) - the guy who directed the film I was in last summer and the guy who's lived down the road from me since we were five and four years old and who's now doing a physics degree at the university where I work - and they'd be horrified if I was in any way associated with fascist politics; likewise the italian, irish, french, tunisian and french-african people I played football with on Thursday: a; they'd be disgusted to share a pitch with me if I was BNP and b; I'd be disgusted to share a pitch with them if I was.

I'm not some kind of class-warrior and I object to being categorised as such. Class isn't something I ever write about for Stylus and it only ever creeps in on my blog in reference to things other people have said about or to me.

I would be interested to know why you seem insistent on picking a fight with people you only know through message boards? If you want a fight, you've got one, but yet I don't understand why.

would you also say a black broadcaster who played Elgar on Radio 3 should stick to his "own class heritage"?

Carmody, the only reason you'd approve of such an action is because it'd prove what you set out to argue in your original blog posting that started this whole sorry mess: namely, that the middle class are the idealised classes, the right classes. Said black broadcaster would be approved by you because he would acting in *your* culture. As you stated in your blog, the C2, C3, D, and E classes are just dress up.

You really are a fuck-up, though.

there's certainly enough jingoism to go around country music but I wouldn't even call that a conservative trait, really

I would! but then again I have been nothing but rong in this thread so

that one really unfunny early 90s SNL actress, etc

She had this hilarious -- but not in the way she meant -- video song called "There's A Communist Living in the White House" which was part of the Pasadena Tea Party operation.

"Only Glenn Beck understands me"

"Spread the wealth" is not actually a direct quote from the Communist Manifesto, at least not the translation I have.

If big cash wasn't involved Hollywood movies would be way more liberal

― President Keyes, Friday, July 15, 2011 1:51 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

But "Big Business" is always the bad guy in Hollywood! The venal capitalist out to screw everyone over so he can get paid is a trope!

Yeah he's usually played by Michael Ironside

The last anti-"big business" movies i can think of are alien trilogy and robocop. i'm trying to think of a more recent example, like maybe jurassic park, but they made attenborough too lovable in that.

Generalization from personal experience: all metalheads are stoner libertarians

The last anti-"big business" movies i can think of are alien trilogy and robocop.

What, are you kidding? Off the top of my head I can think of Avatar, Erin Brockovich, A Civil Action and Michael Clayton (three of which were Best Picture nominees), sci-fi crap like Death Race and Rollerball, the Bond flick Quantum of Solace, the new Alvin and the Chipmunks movies . . . if I sat and gave it some thought I bet I could easily come up with 50 or more from the last 10 years.

Wall-E...

victoria jackson is a vintage ws of shame

Obviously a lot of conservative people like "conservative" music, just as a lot of radicals like "conservative" music as well. And the other way round too.

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MIranda Lambert and Blake Shelton

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 15, 2011 2:24 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Is he for real liberal though? I just checked out one of his records from the library and it had some dumb line about "rebel flag flying" that didn't sound too apologetic about it. What's his deal, really?

Hollywood lol. Isn't it Hollywood career suicide to come out too early?