Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

So much for the Indiewire link: "Lists removed at the behest of Sight & Sound."

I found it repasted here:
http://screencrush.com/directors-top-10/

La Maman et la Putain

^no, this making the top 5,0000 is some srs trolling

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

La Maman et La Putain >>>>> anything by Rohmer and Truffaut, thought this was accepted, no kidding.

These are all good picks - glad to see Touki Bouki and Yi Yi

The Leopard
La Maman et la Putain
The Third Man
L'eclisse
Once Upon a Time in the West
Beau Travail
The Colour of Pomegranates
Partie de Campagne
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Touki-Bouki
A One and a Two

So ... POX from the top 100:

Jeanne Dielman
Satantango
Gertrud
La Jetee
Rear Window
Barry Lyndon
The Night of the Hunter
L'eclisse
Nashville
Imitation of Life

Mann's Avatar ranking is probably just technerd enthusiasm, but I'm hoping it's also a small part of a campaign to finagle a cheap loan of JC's new setup.

See, canon formation DOES affect the future of the medium.

Pretty sure I missed the poll where I would have made the case for The Bad News Bears as one of the great movies, but... it is.

See, canon formation can also distort the past.

When I finally watched it a couple of years ago, I was amazed at how unflinching and smart it was about the way adults will embarrass themselves when it comes to kids' sports. I experienced some of that myself when I was younger, in little league and again in high school. Tarantino doesn't strike me as someone who looks at the film through an autobiographical lens, but maybe I'm completely wrong.

I suspect Tarantino likes it because the kids cuss and use racial slurs a lot.

thats the same reason he loves His Girl Friday iirc

He probably really loved the one scene where all the kids sat around the dugout and analyzed "Afternoon Delight."

xyzzzz, u r a delinquent.

Richard Ayoade? isn't he in The Watch? What did he direct?

Submarine

ok skipped that one

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2012/08/sight_sound_s_greatest_films_of_all_time_list_mocked_and_defiled_.html

The mocking and defiling here is not very convincing--not very clear, either, on a single quick reading.

Much better, I think:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-radical-vision-of-sight-sounds-stodgy-bestfilm,83352/

"On the other hand, (Kane) is now liberated from the best-film-ever label, which burdened it with a heavy significance that no film should ever have to carry, much less one as spectacularly entertaining as Kane." Yes--pass all that on to Vertigo, where it seems more at home.

As somebody pointed out above, Coppola's got two Scorsese films on his list this time (in 1992, he had one). Scorsese, meanwhile, took Godfather II off his 1992 list, going from one Coppola film to none. (They must not have voted in 2002--their lists were not in the print issue.) Someone may not be getting along very well with someone in the near future. Also notice that Scorsese lists 12 films on his ballot this year rather than 10.

really, Coppola's oeuvre has no biz near a 10-greatest list.

And yet, there it is. Conspiracy or mass hypnosis, probably.

There's something in the wine...

99.

The Clock
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Late Spring
Singin' in the Rain
Playtime
Ménilmontant
Broken Blossoms
Zorn's Lemma
Masculine Feminine

Wolcott:

Strip Vertigo of its haunting, Wagnerian eternal-return score by Bernard Herrmann and you've got a muddled Orphic saga that looks like a not-great Steve Ditko comic with a performance by Kim Novak that exerts all the erotic mystery and allure of a burlap bag.

You may disagree and that's your right, as an America

I wish he had actually said "as an America"

White sure does love De Palma.

does he though? i find it hard to believe anything he says, whether he's praising something or damning it.

I'm with them on their criticisms of Vertigo, but I definitely wouldn't elevate The Birds over it; the things I don't particularly like about Vertigo are much more bothersome by the time of The Birds.

at least Godfather II & III don't have Brando

Yes, III has it all over I in not having Brando.

no, you're as bad at interpreting simple sentences as figuring out Wins Above Replacement.

We had this argument seven years ago...we're gonna let that one pass.

Not sure, but I think Network is now the most-mentioned movie among the Sl4nt ballots.

I've been following your lists--The Good Shepherd is one of the more idiosyncratic picks I've seen on one of these. (I thought it was okay...and long, from what I remember.)

i'm slightly outta the loop w/this thread but fwiw i would totally endorse picking up a copy of this ish if you see one - i am a sucker for lists, & individual ballots (many are fascinating, particularly those of the women polled - mia hansen-love's, miranda july's, joanna hogg's i think), but the magazine's terrific, too.

looking forward to getting the mag. list frenzy!

We had this argument seven years ago...we're gonna let that one pass.

― clemenza, Monday, August 6, 2012 12:23 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^New board description?

no itch?

One Sl4nter got called a hipster for picking Showgirls. I lol'd.

eric's list is real interesting but i can't bring myself to watch anything called 'electrocuting an elephant.'

it's definitely 'as advertised'

Eric's defence of the film makes intellectual sense, but I'll never, ever watch it.

wheres his list

So ... POX from the top 100:

Jeanne Dielman
Satantango
Gertrud
La Jetee
Rear Window
Barry Lyndon
The Night of the Hunter
L'eclisse
Nashville
Imitation of Life

― Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 18:12 (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2012/08/if-i-had-a-sight-sound-film-ballot-eric-hendersons-top-10-films-of-all-time/

just took from the library Sokurov's Spiritual Voices; Histoire(s) du Cinema; Showgirls.

12+ hours

Thalllberg....Thallllberg....

Bogdanovich OTM

All these films and so many more should be seen by every civilized person on earth, and the whole rating idea is anti-artistic, anti-film culture, just absurdly reductive: There are so many wonderful pictures to see, that to reduce them down to a Top Ten is a disservice to all the great work that has been done with that haunting 20th century medium of humanity, born just at the end of the 19th century: a now nearly mythical visual history of more than an entire 100 years of life in the world. The first century is history. We currently have a lot to live up to; a lot more than ten.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/peterbogdanovich/the-sight-and-sound-poll

The Sight and Sound poll gets people to seek out these films and see them--you can argue that people should want to see them anyway, without the extra push of a poll, but if the poll helps to accomplish that, what is the problem?

there isn't one. also it's possibly to be perfectly civilised - cultured even - without ever seeing a single one of these films or wanting to.

"should be"

clemenza, do you have a polling numbers on that claim?

The problem is in the process. These are allegedly the choices of film scholars/lovers, and yet nearly all of them admit some artificial, arbitrary constraints they use to whittle their canons down a list of ten. So how does this produce a result that means something?

Do I have any actual evidence that the S&S poll encourages people to seek out these films? Of course not--no more than the many assertions you make on a daily basis here. (Oh, I get it--political junkie joke.) I will say this: years ago, based on a pretty good awareness of what I like and don't like, I decided that Jacques Tati wasn't really for me. But Playtime is screening here later in the month, and, because of the poll, I'm going to see it and try my best to be open-minded. It'll be my first Tati film.

As far as artificial and arbitrary constraints, I think it's a bad idea to start going down that road. I would prefer that everyone simply vote for their ten favourite films, and whatever the results are, that's what they are.

Truthfully, I doubt Bogdanovich would be saying anything if his own films did better in the poll.