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tipsy, have you seen Uncle Jean-Luc eating reels of celluloid? is that King Lear?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

re: la mepris

feel like it earns some love as a sorta landmark film - just a timely example of colour and the free association of godard towards other media - lang, bardot - at that time. the godard picks are def interesting - like it's great that histoires is in there - & some degree of "i'd sub la petit soldat for _____" is inevitable, but mepris feels like a different category of outsider, yeah.

on looking a lil more closely at the list, la regle du jou is the one that most surprises me, being so high -- i thought if some kind of contemporary mood was going to dictate the additions and disappearances to the list, the rise of sunrise, &c, the synaesthesia of vertigo over the klout of cain, it would've drawn away from renoir's film. but maybe not. i haven't seen it in a while.

, Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

I like most Godard films but they all run together for me except Contempt/Mepris--it's his only film that strikes me as melancholy.

ryan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Godard directing a Vidal script sounds like one of the great missed opportunities.

Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

I like most Godard films but they all run together for me except Contempt/Mepris--it's his only film that strikes me as melancholy.

― ryan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:31 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, otm. whenever anyone posits an alternative to breathless appearing in the list, of the other early '60s films, i just have to piece together a madlib of oh right with karina & the walter benjamin quote & godard killing the heroine in the last minute.

, Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

I always feel like critics/directors are going to gravitate towards films that are about filmmaking, and while arguably every JLG film is about that in one way or another, Le Mepris is very explicitly so. All cinemascope and vivid colours, plus as mentioned Lang etc. Also that argument scene with Bardot in the Karina wig. And it was pre-"political" JLG, and therefore less divisive I guess.

I've always found him to be angry in one way or another. Tout Va Bien still plays like a polemic to me.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

So the top-rated comedies are The General at #34, Some Like It Hot, Playtime (tied at 42) and City Lights (50). Where are all the ILE poll faves?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

In ILE pollsters' DVD players, being watched, perpetually.

Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

I always feel like critics/directors are going to gravitate towards films that are about filmmaking,

which might explain why I dislike those movies except Irma Vep.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

White Hunter, Black Heart

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Liked that one OK. Have absolutely no desire to ever see it again.

Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Eastwood's accent rivaled Christian Bale's Batvoice.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

Godard is angry but I think he is aware of the futility of carrying these gestures through in a film, and to just let film be that and nothing else. He loves the movies too much.

re: Ghatak. Ajantrik is the car film. I found it quite a revelation, admire him even more after I watched it recently.

Surprised people around these parts don't know him. A River Called Titas is a personal favourite. Cloud-Capped Star would probably be the film by him that would make a list. I expect to see that in the top 100.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

53= Rear Window
North by Northwest
Raging Bull

56= M
Touch of Evil
The Leopard

59 = Sherlock Jr
Sansho Dayu
La Maman et la Putain
Barry Lyndon

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

63 = Modern Times
Sunset Blvd
The Night of the Hunter
Wild Strawberries
Rio Bravo
Pickpocket

69 = A Man Escaped
Blade Runner
Sans Soleil
Blue Velvet

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

73 = La Grande Illusion
Les Enfants du Paradis
The Third Man
L'eclisse
Nashville

78 = Once Upon a Time in the West
Chinatown
Beau Travail

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

81 = The Magnificent Ambersons
Lawrence of Arabia
The Spirit of the Beehive

84 = Greed
Casablanca
The Colour of Pomegranates
The Wild Bunch
Fanny and Alexander
A Brighter Summer Day

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

90 = Partie de Campagne
A Matter of Life and Death
Aguirre, Wrath of God

93 = Intolerance
Un Chien Andalou
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Madame de...
The Seventh Seal
Imitation of Life
Touki-Bouki
A One and a Two

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

no rivette :-(

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

53= Rear Window
North by Northwest
Raging Bull

1 that was on my own fake list and 2 that I'm waaay relieved didn't make the top 50.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for posting the rest, WF. Glad to see Nashville's on the map.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Michael Mann
"Apocalypse Now" (1979, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"Battleship Potemkin" (1925, dir. Sergei Eisenstein)
"Citizen Kane" (1941, dir. Orson Welles)
"Avatar" (2009, dir. James Cameron)
"Dr. Strangelove" (1964, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"Biutiful" (2010, dir. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu)
"My Darling Clementine" (1946, dir. John Ford)
"The Passion Of Joan Of Arc" (1928, dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"The Wild Bunch" (1969, dir. Sam Peckinpah)

Um.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

michael mann listing avatar is some srs trolling xp

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Would not be at all surprised if The Shining is top 25 on the director's overall list.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

La Maman et la Putain

^no, this making the top 5,0000 is some srs trolling

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

how many 1990-or-later is that, in total? 4 or 5?

And aside from Close-Up, I'm seeing no Iran. Ludicrous.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

the eustache is def in my top ten, no trolling

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Some director picks I find interesting for one reason or another:

Bong Joon-Ho: Zodiac
Coppola: The Apartment
Sean Durkin: The Panic in Needle Park
Miranda July: Punch Drunk Love
Jeff Nichols: Hud and The Hustler
Tarantino: The Bad New Bears
Bela Tarr: Berlin Alexanderplatz
Apichatpong Weerasethakul: The Conversation and Empire

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Alfred, I don't recall Clint using an accent in WHBH!

53= Rear Window
North by Northwest
Raging Bull

1 that was on my own fake list and 2 that I'm waaay relieved didn't make the top 50.

The small victories just keep gettin' smaller, huh?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Tarantino: The Bad New Bears

The greatest baseball movie ever made! Seriously.

Bong Joon-Ho: Zodiac

Does he post here?

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

v possibly the greatest baseball movie ever made, cuz the only other good one is Sugar

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

a hit from the bong

Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

Miranda July: Punch Drunk Love

now we know who to blame

Number None, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

drunk punch Miranda July.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

Eric's ballsy list is up at sl4nt and I am just glad The Shining missed.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

I quickly scanned for titles that ran egregiously opposite to the director's style or temperament--was hoping to to see something heavily edited on Bela Tarr's list, or maybe a Pauly Shore film--but nothing jumped out at me.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

Because someone has to. Armond says Vertigo winning is another example of everybody but him being stupid.

http://cityarts.info/2012/08/03/g-o-a-t-topples/

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?
the numinous The Birds?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

For years, it’s been quietly accepted that Welles’ follow-up film The Magnificent Ambersons was richer, more complex than Kane

No, actually, it's been vehemently disagreed with, but whatev.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

and he blasts S&S for "class-based" concerns! The marvel of Armond is he'd blast those guys if they picked CK and cited "class-based" reasons.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

it's on Armond's quiet scale

xp

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

Nick James says The Tree of Life came in at #101 in this interview:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/02/showbiz/uk-hitchcock-greatest-film-poll/index.html

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Some of you are going to have a hard time with the CNN interviewer in that clip...but she does say In the Mood for Love would be in her own Top 10.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

how many 1990-or-later is that, in total? 4 or 5?

24. In the Mood for Love
28. Mulholland Dr.
35. Satantango
42. Close Up
48. Histoire(s) du Cinema
78. Beau Travail
84. A Brighter Summer Day
93. A One and a Two

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

Eight from the last 20 years is pretty impressive given the contradictory presuppositions that, a) movies have allegedly "never been worse," and b) there's so much more for many critics to choose from.

Eric H., Friday, 3 August 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

NB: Sean Durkin listed The Goonies. Jeff Nichols listed Fletch.

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

Gore Vidal would have mentioned Airplane!.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Btw, have they always extended ballots to novice directors like Durkin, Nichols, and Richard Ayoade?

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

I had to look up both Durkin and Nichols to find out who they were.

clemenza, Friday, 3 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link


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