Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

i will say it's a testament to the actors (or the chug-along pace of the film) that even with all the feelings and speeches only michael caine started to actually annoy me. Mostly I just got the giggles.

it really bugged me that like... we're meant to assume that batman retired right after the end of the dark knight, right? why is his body so wrecked and ruined?? it would make sense if he'd continued as batman in the intervening years, but he basically had a few months of crimefighting under his belt and called it quits

also why bother having his legs all owsy-wowsy if later, after Bane appears to break his back, some old dude in a pit can just pop it back into place and then it's just a few push-ups before we're better than ever

yeah... in a lot of ways this movie seemed to deliberately undermine everything potentially fun about it. batman's body is wrecked and we even get a scene from a doctor that's like nolan telling the audience 'don't expect any cool bat-moves'

then again jim dangle is probably a shitty doctor

you know what would've been cool, at the end when the mansion is turned into an orphanage, the new headmaster rolls out and its patrick stewart in a wheelchair. think about THAT

or BANE, who having survived the shooting, realizes there are better uses for his inexplicably saucy inexplicably british wit

i've said "no BROTHER, they expect two of US in the WRECKage" a bunch of times since i saw it

you have to say it into a cup for the full effect

his voice is mad fun to imitate

Would like to see Carcetti as the CIA bad guy in a Bourne movie now.

xpost his voice is sean connery under a bucket and i claim my 5

will def be keeping an eye out for a bane dialogue super-cut when this goes to dvd. I get the feeling his accent will sound all over the place if you put all his lines back-to-back.

i love how his voice rises at the end of every sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-BxAU2xvo

bane's voice and the avengers getting me to say "this isnt a (cat / scone / coffee) its a timebomb" for 2 straight weeks are the triumphs of 2012's funnybook movies

xp nice

xpost his voice is sean connery under a bucket and i claim my 5

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:36 PM (14 minutes ago)

will def be keeping an eye out for a bane dialogue super-cut when this goes to dvd. I get the feeling his accent will sound all over the place if you put all his lines back-to-back.

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:38 PM (12 minutes ago)

croup otm, not that roger's wrong. while he was pulping bats, some of his lines sounded totally like connery. at other times he sounded german or austrian, like picard, or just strange and unplaceable.

also, how is it that batman doesn't know how to deal with a skilled opponent of superior strength? he just keeps punching, despite the fact that his blows are obviously having no effect, doesn't do anything to try to avoid or outwit bane's force (except turn out the lights). weird and dumb. are we to suppose that bruce is committing passive suicide? if so, it wasn't very well motivated.

xpost his voice is sean connery under a bucket and i claim my 5

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, August 2, 2012 12:36 AM

ya i kept hearing it as a bad american imitation of connery

the whole bit earlier with Alfred I think is supposed to lead you to believe that he does want to go out in a blaze of glory to make up for the spiritual death he had when retired as Bats, but honestly I don't think they actually gave Bruce enough time/material to adequately explore this at that point in the movie (really they just set him up as a Howard Hughes-esque recluse that people talked about, clunkily)

yeah one thing that really sucked was that after coming back to face bane a second time, all he does is... charge at him again throwing rights and lefts

ya i kept hearing it as a bad american imitation of connery

― am0n, Thursday, August 2, 2012 12:59 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

the first thing i said to my friend after seeing it is that he sounded like darrell hammond doing connery

hahaha

i would almost think DC/Warner Bros decided to let Nolan be sloppy because they want people to be OK with his work ending and a before-too-long reboot. There a reason to believe they'd want the film to be less satisfying than TDK, like if Marvel had let Raimi "close the door" with a dance sequence, rather than actually firing the guy before starting over. But considering the average quality of DC/WB movie in the last decade there's no reason to believe they're actually playing a long game.

next 4 movies = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_A_Death_in_the_Family

The Joker himself, meanwhile, has met none other than the Ayatollah Khomeini, who offers him a position in the Iranian government. The Joker leaves a warehouse containing the dead bodies of his henchmen and an address which Batman easily finds: it is that of the United Nations building in New York.

while i didn't really have a lot of "what nolan should have done" thoughts during the movie (cuz where do you even begin), some of bane's speeches made me wish it was more of an adaptation of The Cult. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Cult

ahhaha the best thing ever was the joker getting diplomatic immunity

still find it fuckin so conspicuously weird that the joker isnt mentioned once in this movie

"joker's still in jail"

"cool"

CHILdren PLAYing in the RUINS of a THREAD.

http://i.imgur.com/uUF9k.png

Why so sensuous?

Hope they get the voices right!

There are one or two holes in the plot.

I would count at least three

I approve of the turn this thread has taken.

See, their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you, when the pants are down, these... these civilized people? They'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.

Come on, I want you to do it, I want you to do it. Come on, hit me. Hit me!

Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch Big Wet Asses 8.

And yes, it does come in black.

I'm gonna make this pencil..disappear.

Different pencil magic trick, i presume.

ah, you beat me to the punch

you look nervous. is it the [CENSORED]? you want to know how I got ‘em?

yeah one thing that really sucked was that after coming back to face bane a second time, all he does is... charge at him again throwing rights and lefts

after being thoroughly sonned in the first fight, batman came back with knowledge of bane's one weakness - being punched in the mouth repeatedly.

he also doesn't wildly throw punches as much, and lets Bane come to him

On some level this just all stems from a different attitude about the Batman character; in general, Nolan has done comparitively little with him being the world's greatest detective. There's moments of detecting (the bizarre bullet-reconstruction scene in TDK) but we don't get half as much of him sneaking around, gathering clues, and working out a MENTAL plan to defeat somebody, as opposed to just having the best toys and the best kung-fu plus the elements of surprise and spookiness. I think it's fine up to a point, but yeah, it makes the Bane rematch really unsatisfying - - - and again, how hard would it be to have shown Bruce's clever, left-field plan for sneaking back into Gotham? Turn the plot hole into something that really makes us cheer for the character's creativity, etc.

It felt like he didn't have much of a character arc as Bruce Wayne in this film, either. The prior two had him using his identity as cover for Batman adventures to a greater extent or he had to reconcile his roles. It seems like he actually decided to hang up the identity of Bruce Wayne for eight years until he picks it up after this film.

you know, it's kind of fitting Nolan made Batman a huffy technocrat who doesn't really think things through but manages to hit the goalpost anyway

lol "hit the goal" i mean