i didn't hate it or anything, i came in for three hours of bat-shenanigans and definitely got that
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
i just wished there were more actual bat-shenanigans. would it kill nolan to show batman flapping around the city at night knocking thugs heads together like coconuts once or twice?
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
also, why wouldn't the national guard have known that the bomb was going to go off? lucius knew, right? and we presume he has a cell phone. so wouldn't everybody have been prepared on the final day?
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
I think this movie had the least amount of actual Bat-screen time
― Nhex, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
i'm happy to have a less literal take on "bat-shenanigans" if batman is going to talk like a child pretending to be a monster
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
never laughed harder than any scene where batman and bane had a conversation, did they just get tom hardy drunk and make him talk into his cup
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
Haha
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link
also JGL-cop was a swell dude and all, but what the fuck is he gonna do with a batcave
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link
there should have been a smiling morgan freeman to suggest he's not just being left alone with gadgetry they probably didn't train him on in police academy
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
the entire jgl subplot coulda been scrapped imo
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
also what's the deal here:
isn't this supposed to be the last one?
are they really setting up another batman? for another director or whatever?
if so why did they make a big point of being like "btw your name is ROBIN"
is there really a possibility of a robin movie in the works? if not why do that??!
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
those orphans are gonna totally fuck up the manor
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
i'm guessing re: jgl as robin/batman whatever they will let america decide whether that's a better idea than an Armie Hammer reboot or whatever
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
i can see him as batman rebooted but why be all robin when clearly if they do that he won't be playing robin
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad i read harry knowles' "batman wouldn't do that!" rant so i could just lol at how flighty bruce wayne is. family dies, comes up with a plan for vengeance, hides out for 8 years when someone else he loves dies, comes back when people get him nostalgic, gets the shit kicked out of him, sacrifices life to save gotham only lol not really, he's sexing it up in europe with catwoman but don't worry he left a cool bro the keys to his shit
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
ha. just ridiculous.
drives me crazy the critics who are like finally a supehero movie that grapples with SERIOUS THEMES
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
(when everything about it is so half-assed)
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was surprised just how ignorable the OWS/class warfare shit was, critics had me thinking it'd be offensively Randian or something when really you have to put more effort than Nolan did to get a coherent message from the film. for all bane's speechifying it looked like the 99% was staying off the streets, it was just mercenaries/blackgate types vs cops from what i could tell.
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
i still can't get over the fact that batman retires for 8 years and gotham is plunged into... an unprecedented era of peace and prosperity
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
well they had a law passed that denied mobsters parole or something
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
i will say it's a testament to the actors (or the chug-along pace of the film) that even with all the feelings and speeches only michael caine started to actually annoy me. Mostly I just got the giggles.
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
it really bugged me that like... we're meant to assume that batman retired right after the end of the dark knight, right? why is his body so wrecked and ruined?? it would make sense if he'd continued as batman in the intervening years, but he basically had a few months of crimefighting under his belt and called it quits
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
also why bother having his legs all owsy-wowsy if later, after Bane appears to break his back, some old dude in a pit can just pop it back into place and then it's just a few push-ups before we're better than ever
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah... in a lot of ways this movie seemed to deliberately undermine everything potentially fun about it. batman's body is wrecked and we even get a scene from a doctor that's like nolan telling the audience 'don't expect any cool bat-moves'
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
then again jim dangle is probably a shitty doctor
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
you know what would've been cool, at the end when the mansion is turned into an orphanage, the new headmaster rolls out and its patrick stewart in a wheelchair. think about THAT
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
or BANE, who having survived the shooting, realizes there are better uses for his inexplicably saucy inexplicably british wit
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
i've said "no BROTHER, they expect two of US in the WRECKage" a bunch of times since i saw it
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
you have to say it into a cup for the full effect
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
his voice is mad fun to imitate
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Would like to see Carcetti as the CIA bad guy in a Bourne movie now.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
xpost his voice is sean connery under a bucket and i claim my 5
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
will def be keeping an eye out for a bane dialogue super-cut when this goes to dvd. I get the feeling his accent will sound all over the place if you put all his lines back-to-back.
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
i love how his voice rises at the end of every sentence
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-BxAU2xvo
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
bane's voice and the avengers getting me to say "this isnt a (cat / scone / coffee) its a timebomb" for 2 straight weeks are the triumphs of 2012's funnybook movies
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link
xp nice
― Nhex, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:36 PM (14 minutes ago)
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:38 PM (12 minutes ago)
croup otm, not that roger's wrong. while he was pulping bats, some of his lines sounded totally like connery. at other times he sounded german or austrian, like picard, or just strange and unplaceable.
also, how is it that batman doesn't know how to deal with a skilled opponent of superior strength? he just keeps punching, despite the fact that his blows are obviously having no effect, doesn't do anything to try to avoid or outwit bane's force (except turn out the lights). weird and dumb. are we to suppose that bruce is committing passive suicide? if so, it wasn't very well motivated.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, August 2, 2012 12:36 AM
ya i kept hearing it as a bad american imitation of connery
― am0n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
the whole bit earlier with Alfred I think is supposed to lead you to believe that he does want to go out in a blaze of glory to make up for the spiritual death he had when retired as Bats, but honestly I don't think they actually gave Bruce enough time/material to adequately explore this at that point in the movie (really they just set him up as a Howard Hughes-esque recluse that people talked about, clunkily)
― Nhex, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah one thing that really sucked was that after coming back to face bane a second time, all he does is... charge at him again throwing rights and lefts
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
― am0n, Thursday, August 2, 2012 12:59 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
the first thing i said to my friend after seeing it is that he sounded like darrell hammond doing connery
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― am0n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
i would almost think DC/Warner Bros decided to let Nolan be sloppy because they want people to be OK with his work ending and a before-too-long reboot. There a reason to believe they'd want the film to be less satisfying than TDK, like if Marvel had let Raimi "close the door" with a dance sequence, rather than actually firing the guy before starting over. But considering the average quality of DC/WB movie in the last decade there's no reason to believe they're actually playing a long game.
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
next 4 movies = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_A_Death_in_the_Family
― am0n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
The Joker himself, meanwhile, has met none other than the Ayatollah Khomeini, who offers him a position in the Iranian government. The Joker leaves a warehouse containing the dead bodies of his henchmen and an address which Batman easily finds: it is that of the United Nations building in New York.
― am0n, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
while i didn't really have a lot of "what nolan should have done" thoughts during the movie (cuz where do you even begin), some of bane's speeches made me wish it was more of an adaptation of The Cult. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Cult
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
ahhaha the best thing ever was the joker getting diplomatic immunity
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
still find it fuckin so conspicuously weird that the joker isnt mentioned once in this movie
"joker's still in jail"
"cool"
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link