ILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW)

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You like to wager on that?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, not now that you've worded it like that.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

13

Enslaved - Vertebrae (Indie Recordings) 145 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Didn't get any No1 votes rather surprisingly.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

That was actually my next guess after Torche!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's a bit of a shock low entry at no12 actually..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

Would you like to guess/wager?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

It has really bad cover art..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

12

Meshuggah - obZen (Nuclear Blast Records) 155 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Anyone got any comments on todays countdown so far? Any surprise inclusions?
I shall post no 11 later before I go to bed

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Curious: Do people actually think the Meshuggah (and Opeth) albums are standout albums for those bands or do you just see them as solid releases from great bands?

Sundar, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

After revisiting Vikingligr Veldi this week, Vertebrae sounds even more useless. I had almost forgotten just how incredible they used to be.

At least it's paying their kids school fees.

Siegbran, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sundar: I think opinion is split on the Meshuggah. Some think its the best they've done and some don't as far as i can tell. No idea whatsoever on the Opeth, but I'd be surprised if people think it's their best. However they might still think it's better than any other metal album in 2008.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

11

The Goslings - Occasion (Not Not Fun) 158 Points (1 Number One Vote)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

And to recap our countdown so far (Rank - Points - Votes - #1 Votes - Artist - Album):

50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion

Tomorrow, the thrilling conclusion! And then a bunch of statistics that dwarf these in their sublime geekiness!

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

outside of I, obzen is probably my favourite meshuggah album to date. it's a perfect distillation of their sound - so focused and lean and sharp. I know it's got a bit of stick from the hardcore for being a bit simpler than their older stuff, but that criticism seems largely to be based on 'combustion' rather than the album as a whole (which does get pretty damn tricksy).

even so, 'combustion' is an incredible track. by no means the most wilfully difficult in their catalogue, but a totally storming, brutal metal tune that's still characteristically meshuggah.

all of the above surprises me somewhat, as I'm usually a proponent of 'the more insanely complex, the better'. but for me, they just nailed it on this one.

oh, and I agree. the artwork is crap.

m the g, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

not too into opeth... as for meshuggah, they're one of my favorite bands but that's a little tricky for me to answer.

the way I see it, everything that they've done post-destroy erase improve has been a gradual refinement of one kind of sound: rhythmic, down-tuned breakdowns in wacky time signatures with (almost) melodic, (almost) ambient guitar leads and a couple other elements re-jiggered throughout the course of an album.

all of their albums of the last few years strike me as samey but I don't mean this in a negative way. pretty sure I've posted this on another thread, but I listen to this band the way I would listen to autechre or basic channel records. the head-nodding repetition is a big draw for me.

but because of this, I have a hard time identifying a real standout. could be chaosphere, could be the i ep, could be obzen. I like them all, really.

Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

I haven't been able to get into "combustion," actually. it's just... not what I want from them. I usually skip it. :-/

Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I would be interested in stats comparing this polls votes and Pazz & Jop. How many made both and how the high placed votes in one poll did in the other. And anything else Glenn can come up with :)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've asked my P&J elves to confer with my ILM Metal elves. We'll see what they come up with. After the food fight subsides...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are your ILM Metal Elves called Dio's? ;)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 01:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ok I shall start the top 10 countdown...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 02:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tomorrow (Friday)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 02:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think obzen perhaps sounds better than any other meshuggah record. song-wise it's pretty strong as well, but perhaps not quite leveling up to the likes of chaosphere and DEI

Charlie Howard, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

watershed, on the other hand, is far from being opeth's best release. i still really like it, but tend to appreciate it from a distance rather than play it constantly. it really does stand alone as one of the more unique things they've put out and has some of the most vital riffs of the band's career.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Surprised, but very glad to see that much Goslings record! Played that last night and still love it.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

much love for the Goslings record

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

wow i had no idea the goslings rec would place so high--i'll definitely check it out

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm very pleased that they did. A pleasant surprise.
I'm fairly pleased with the top 10 too. Not everyone will agree with it but who ever does in polls?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 04:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'll start posting the top 10 from around 2pm (ish) UK Time. So that some of the american ilxors can make comments as they go up. Probably post 1 per hour approx. Then Glenn will do his stuff.
I'm looking forward to him matching and comparing to the P&J poll.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 04:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Of the 10 albums still to be revealed, only one failed to get a single Pazz & Jop vote, and only one managed to get more votes from 577 P&J voters than from 30 ILM Metal Poll voters.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 05:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

next?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

10

Gojira - The Way of All Flesh (Listenable Records) 163 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

wow, awesome cover! worth hearing?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

As I'll explain after we finish the countdown, I have scientifically determined a ranking of the Truest Metal Albums, which is obviously different from the Best Metal Albums. The top 5 Truest Metal Albums are all records that have already appeared lower on the countdown. Gojira's The Way of All Flesh is the 9th Truest Metal Album.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think i'd prefer a list of the Falsest Metal Albums of the year. maybe.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

honest question, fwiw: as someone who really dug the last Mastodon album, liked the latest by Opeth, and pretty much can't abide by Neanderthal for more than five minutes at a time, what should i be checking out here?

signed too lazy to read the rolling metal thread

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Avoid Chinese Democracy, even if clearly some ilxors do like it . Never trust an ilxor!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh man, i can't stand listening to Axl's latest temper tantrum. and, on a somewhat related note, James' constant whining on Death Magnetic is possibly even worse. (grow up already, fellas! you can't act like spoiled fifteen-year-olds forever!)

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

maybe check out some of the proggier stuff? like the intronaut, enslaved, and cynic records?

fwiw, the intronaut is the only one of those three I'd rate. I prefer the first cynic record and some earlier enslaved stuff.

Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think i'd probably be more into some of the proggier stuff on here. where's LJ when you need 'im?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, you might be into the blood ceremony album. that's a good one.

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Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

the influences on there give a pretty good idea of where they're coming from (black sabbath, jethro tull, pentagram, etc.) but the flute and female vox are just enough so that they stand out from the crowd.

did I vote for this one? if I didn't, I should have.

Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

too much Tull, not enough Sabbath for my tastes.

(i believe i may just be waiting for Blood Mountain II or something.)

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

hah. well, then you're in luck. new mastodon is out pretty soon.

Alan N, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

And isn't Blood Mountain 2 (though apparently is proggier but better)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

9

Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner (The End Records) 155 Points (2 Number One Votes)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

"And isn't Blood Mountain 2 (though apparently is proggier but better)"

Lets hope so.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

I liked Blood Mountain.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

better is always good.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:31 (5 years ago) Permalink


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