Come with me, come to the land of batshit rightwing cartoonists

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yeah, but it's not about their importance, it's about what attitudes they mirror. assuming that they mirror something greater than the creator's twisted conceptions, that is.

Jeb, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

In some cases on these threads, I don't think we can assume that.

kenan, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

fluxblog or tofuhut

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(this is badly organized and fairly stream-of-consciousness and i think i repeat myself a few times, so plz bear w/ me)

These things are mirroring what's said in the greater rightwing noise machine, which is why I pay attention to them as a way of checking in on the land of cracked-out John Birch batshittery.

One of the aspects of the current american RWNM is that the talking points and attacks are identical, from the talking heads on the shouty shows to the bloggers and down to the cartoonists level, so paying attention to the drawings is a quick shorthand(rapidly digested, rapidly passed on) to what the rest of the world.

Are these guys horrible for spreading the shit that gets said elsewhere, and being little more than conduits for the LGF message-boards writ large for what passes for Republican dialogue nowadays? Should we damn them for merely echoing the message, or by giving voice to their personal eternal and intenal font of toxic radicalism and 24/7 cognitive dissonance?

As to their impact, i don't think it's much more than everything else that gets churned out, in terms of message or reinforcement of rightwing strawmen/beliefs, etc. The fact is that some of these are little more than blog posts, and some of them are syndicated nationally(either on op-ed pages or in the comics).

The offensiveness of some of this shit to me is that while it is what I take as a personal attack and as reinforcement of the current debasement of overall dialogue, it's SO seriously fucking lazy, both in terms of actual drawing mechanics(the cut-in-paste mentioned before) and quarter-assed attempts at wit(michaelmoore/algore is fat lol). And the relative lack of the toons that completely lock into to the authoritarian things going on ain't too much, so even the shitty ones are brought to the forefront in an effort to search for balance or whatever.

It's like, yeah many of them blow goats as op-ed cartoons, but their bilious, hatefilled, and heavily anti-american message makes 'em worse.

Political cartooning is a skill extant for over a century & a half(in America, at least), one that can result in art. While there are plenty of half-assed left-leaning toons, this shit adds insult to injury.

But let's not freak out too much over mister faithmouse actually showing up here or our reactions. As the guy who took over posting these things from ethan last year(or whenever it was), I think it's hilarious that one of the cartoonists _actually_ drew a ILX-thread-specific image.

kingfish, Sunday, 27 May 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

But let's not freak out too much over mister faithmouse actually showing up here or our reactions.

Riiiight...

kv_nol, Monday, 28 May 2007 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link

let's Never Forget... Mr. Faithmouse may be Picasso and whatever, but he's still totally fucking batshit. Hi guys, the man writes cartoons about how Christian he is, and obviously thinks that most people should share his nutty opinions. Let's not get enamored or starstruck (hilarity!) with this nutty Christian dude who can maybe draw but is much more marked by the fact that he hates people who can kill their little babies, because they are obviously little babies and not "choices" and us librruls need to shut up because there is no other side to this arguement.

kenan, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

btw, this is bait...

kenan, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

this cartoon is perfect from a rightist point of view--maybe the best of the bunch even--it's the perfect combination of fact, fear, distortion and exaggeration:

http://www.creators.com/comics/37/4643_thumb.gif

Jeb, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

omg those are incredible (xpost)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Those are from The Riskind Sketchbook if anyone wants to dig deeper.

Mike Dixn, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://web.mac.com/ryskind/iWeb/Site/Fresh%20Meat/3C6FB8A2-9057-4078-BA76-D52310297C49_files/What%27s%20My%20Name%21.jpg
I think Glenn Greenwald compared this meme to someone pointing to the obituary page as proof that population growth is a fraud.

Mike Dixn, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

DRUDGE SIREN DOT GIF
Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan gives up her protest

But in Monday's 1,200-word letter, titled, "Good Riddance Attention Whore," Sheehan announced that her son "did indeed die for nothing."

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Glenn Greenwald compared this meme to someone pointing to the obituary page as proof that population growth is a fraud.

Well, technically it is global CLIMATE CHANGE people are worried about, rather than global warming. But I suppose you wouldn't know that if all you read is Georgia science text books.

humansuit, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Duuuuuuuuuuude. That guy invents new conventions of political cartooning in every strip. This whole celebrity puppetry thing is so far outside my language of how to read these things that I don't know where to begin.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm marveling at the sight of a caricaturist NOT caricaturing Howard Stern. it's really quite something.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that guy blew a deadline and just submitted a twelve year old strip he had lying around.

Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Dave and Whoopi have some serious orthodontia issures.
That Gaggle guy is lazy as a recliner.
Those immigration toons sure are offensive.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.patriotart.com/weekly/patriot_art.jpg

abanana, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

why is nancy pelosi holding a pack of hot dogs under her chin

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link

well, wouldn't you?

J0hn D., Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

it appears that the hot dogs have begun to melt and run together towards the bottom. perhaps another experiment in thermodynamics? I think I would've opted to stick 'em in my armpits, but to each his own.

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:57 (sixteen years ago) link

there is a joke here that i am not willing to make.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://joshreads.com/images/07/05/i070526hnj.png

and what, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, fancy questioning what the bible says. Madness!

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

gargamel's a priest now?

stevie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

How dare this guy question this hotel sociality? Hasn't he read her "Letter from a Los Angeles Special Needs Holding Facility"?

kingfish, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah seriously super creepy old priest is not exactly a character I'd follow in the newspaper. half the clipart from red meat is more charming that that thing

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

More of the usual from Chip Bok, i guess:

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529ad.jpg

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529dd.jpg

The "using the firehoses on people" is a bit...uhm

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529cd.jpg

kingfish, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, am I being called gullible for believing that Lindsay Lohan does too much coke and Paris Hilton is really rich and drives without a license?

nabisco, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lies vicious lies

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

guys i'm sort of inclined to let these dudes say whatever the fuck they want about john edwards. guy really is sort of a two-faced douchebag.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't get his appeal, but the "attacks" the right tends to level at him are of the subliterate "Al Gore is fat/invented the internet haw haw" variety

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

true. still, dude is at least partly responsible for putting the american flu vaccine manufacturers out of business. way to go, brody.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

oops, i've been had!

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

pwned

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

whatever, i still don't like him.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i like how the impulse to take to the woods stripped to your boxer shorts is carter's fault too.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

God, don't you remember the 70's, when everyone lost everything and millions of filthy, half-naked Joad families took to bare subsistence living or starved to death? DON'T YOU REMEMBER???!

kenan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

true. still, dude is at least partly responsible for putting the american flu vaccine manufacturers out of business. way to go, brody.

-- river wolf, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:29 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

river wolf, who I like and respect, is a very smart dude, and yet this flase information got in around his filters. These bullshit astroturf stories can be insidiously effective.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i know! i was had! i hadn't heard the story, actually, until the other day when i was discussing various candidates' views on healthcare with a fellow pre-med student who is otherwise very well informed. i didn't do my homework: busted.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i could change my name to "HOLY WAR POWDER KEG"

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Holy War Powder Keg, Batman! Priest Gargamel totally looks like he was drawn by that one MAD magazine dude.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 31 May 2007 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, he's got the Don Martin eyes.

http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/a/images/amer.gothic_dmartin.lg.jpg

kingfish, Thursday, 31 May 2007 06:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Coupla things with this one:

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B21B49B61-A25E-4C41-A95F-5025AB56C20A%7D.gif

1) It's another standard "media pays attention to the wrong things" riff, which I guess is still somewhat positive that even the most authoritarian followers still have an idea that having a media is a good thing, but

2) complaining about them covering pointless shit and not, say, U.S. troop deaths when they've spent _years_ vociferously supporting the assholes who've completely prohibited coverage of returning coffins, who go out of their way on a pretty much weekly to downplay loss of life("why, we lost FAR more in WWII, what are these DFH complaining about?!") and overall sacrifice that a very few american citizens are having to make b/c of all this, and who deliberately want a Murdoch-style bullshit tabloid media where entertainment is now information, etc.

but yeah, compartmentalized thinking, lack of self-awareness, simplistic causation, etc etc etc

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0530dd.jpg

THE ISLAMOFASCISTS HAS TAKEN OVER OH NOES WE MUST ALL GO HIDE WITH THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE!!11

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0530ad.jpg

HEY YOU STUPID FUCK, remember that troop pay increase that's being blocked? well guess who the fuck's blocking it, and who the fuck's supporting it. and NICE USE of the lazy-ass "probably" here jesus christ FUCK these guys even try my patience for this shit sometimes.

And a correction: the batshittery attributed by me to Chip Bok a few posts up is in fact by Chuck Asay, the Colorado Springs-residing dingus who made these last two.

kingfish, Friday, 1 June 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link


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