eddie might have been the most influential american guitarist after hendrix. on hard rock and metal. for better or worse. he definitely changed things. but obviously he didn't help invent the stuff like hendrix did.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
Eddie did change things, but Jimi was a whole new metamorphosis. Deservingly so, the Wiki says that Jimi "is widely considered to be the greatest electric guitarist in music history". To stay consistent, the Wiki can only say that about one person if they're going to do it at all.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
To stay consistent, the Wiki can only say that about one person if they're going to do it at all.
are you accusing the Wiki of consistency
― mookieproof, Monday, 23 July 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody's perfect and I know the Wiki can't be consistent about all things, especially when things are changing all the time, but the Wiki can only say that about one person at a time. Mark my words, Jimi has his place forever and that won't ever change. It hasn't for over 40 years.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
hi
― buzza, Monday, 23 July 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
a new form of music that was not only unique, but desirable and powerful
this makes jimi sound like john galt. "loved by many but known by few, he ruled the fields of woodstock with an indomitable will and a mind that surveyed the doings of lesser men like a god enthroned upon the clouds..."
anyway, it's hard for me to render a verdict. they're both hugely talented and influential musicians. then again, they're both dudes i respectfully appreciate more than outright love. i grew up with jimi's music, but never really bonded with it (one night spent tripping to are you experienced notwithstanding). sometimes the emotionalism hits me just right, and i think it's gorgeous. more often than not, though, it bores me, and i tune it out. i'm a little more personally fond of van halen, as they're suburban adolescence incarnate, and i was a suburban adolescent during their heyday. still, they belong more to my brother and certain of my friends than to me.
i guess it depends on my mood. if i wanted music to soundtrack idle contemplations on a sunny day, it'd be hendrix. if i wanted something to amp me up and/or drink to, then i'd pick van halen.
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link
"but I will say that I reach for Van Halen records far more often than I do Hendrix. Just great songwriting."
i think hendrix's songwriting is kinda the genius part of his genius. i think he was a great composer. i mean not that he wasn't in his a league of his own as a guitarist, he was. okay, i guess he was just a genius. or let's just say he was very very gifted.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah people who talk about hendrix as some kind of one-dimensional instrumental genius/showman piss me off, guy was really the whole package
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
guy was really the whole package.
You're right, when Jimi played, he was "one" with his instrument. You can tell by his movements, including his facial expressions, that only one thing was happening.
It's easy to underrate Jimi because when we hear music today, and then we hear Jimi's music, he doesn't sound as unusual as he did when he was around because a lot of the music we hear today are copied or influenced from Jimi's music. The thing we need to take into consideration when judging a famous artist's music is the time period in which they were around. That is the same reason why the Beatles are so underrated by some people.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
you're preaching to the choir. if there's one thing that everyone on ILX agrees about, it's that the beatles are criminally underrated.
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
i think we're missing an opportunity to ponder how amazing it would have been if david lee roth was the lead singer of the jimi hendrix experience
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
really great videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQW81FJYeJw
― tylerw, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
i like hendrix's method of comping, playing chords, coming up with fills and passing phrases. maybe this isn't an underrated part of his repertoire but it seems like it, still.
i don't have much of an opinion on EVH. i like the solo on 'beat it' a lot.
― goole, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
eddie i think an unheralded rhythm player, real light touch and unique style, plays a lot of fingerstyle for a "metal" guitarist
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i guess that's true too. he does a lot of country-derived stuff.
― goole, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
i mean this is cool shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqywc7fnqE
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
The Beatles are grossly underrated and they have changed music more then anybody. Actually, they seem to have changed everything. Jimi is definitely in good company.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://afterride.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/haruki-murakami-the-wind-up-bird-chronicle.jpg
― Sig Sig Ruman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
grossly underrated by who? martians?
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
pizza also grossly underrated iirc
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
if there is one thing i have learned on the internet though EVERYONE is underrated. every single person who ever made a record. forever.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
i take it back. i thought you were talking about the bootles.
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
You're right, every recording artist has been underrated. That includes people like the Dave Clark Five, and Donny and Marie Osmond. I like your high standards.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
is this where I post Crazy Horses youtubes
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
yes please
― Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
Altgeir Wongro
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMM3MgS4yxc&feature=related
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
^ UNDERRATED
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
like the bootles
"You're right, every recording artist has been underrated. That includes people like the Dave Clark Five"
TOTALLY! i've gone on and on about how underrated they are. so sad. one of the greatest bands ever.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
i mean people know who they are and they were big in their day but nobody listens to them. and they really should. so great.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
re: david lee roth as leader of jimi's band, we have the technology to make that happen now...
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/Dave_Clark_Five_1966.jpg
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
all this machinery making modern web posts can still be open-hearted
― Euler, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty good video of the Osmonds. I've never seen him so rocking and a rolling. Roll over John Smith.
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
correction: Joseph Smith
― Alton Wong, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
often mistaken for his grandad, john smith is rolling over in his grave!
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Mike Smith too!
― Sig Sig Ruman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 July 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
Joseph E Smith and Your Seven Grannies on Bongos
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 July 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds like something the underrated Vivian Stanshall announced on that underrated track "The Intro And The Outro"
― Sig Sig Ruman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
Listening to some of Eddie's best stuff, I didn't hear anything at all new from where Hendrix left off. Eddie had his own guitar licks of course just like different guitarists have their own solos also, but Eddie certainly didn't take the guitar any further than Hendrix. Compared to wild, but smooth Jimi, Eddie looks like he was trying too hard.
― Alton Wong, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
WILD BUT SMOOTH ALTON WONG!
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'm only recounting to you what I saw in the youtube which is just my opinion.
― Alton Wong, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
i kid, alton. we're all family here.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
I can tell, and that's good.
― Alton Wong, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
"eddie might have been the most influential american guitarist after hendrix. on hard rock and metal. for better or worse."
Yup. Rapidly played sequences of single notes which, were they slowed down, would be revealed as basically uninteresting--thanks, Eddie!
― theStalePrince, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSZei5O2DbI
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
still interesting
― goole, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
Not a big EVH fan myself, but don't think Alton is making his case very well.
― Can Ruman Sig The Whites? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, I like this slowed down version of Eruption better. In contrast to the regular version, this one is at least something different.
― Alton Wong, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link