Baroness - Yellow And Green (2012)

haha it was meant as a descriptor! neither positive nor negative

I mean, my overall reaction to this album was this is pleasant and all but I don't think I need to own this

who needs to own albums? it's on spotify.

just fyi i dont give a shit if this is metal or not or w/e but i stick with the idea that this would be a pretty good album if it werent for the alteration to the singing - dudes voice was pretty great on red (like on isak! its a perfect fit and everything works there) but he seems to be trying to do something on this that a) i dont like and doesnt fit what i want to hear w/the music and b) is kinda outside his skill set so i feel like hes fucking it up fairly badly.

one of my other thoughts was that i think the drums sound pretty badass! i would buy the instrumental version of this record.

how you remind me (of nickelback)

wait a min, dan likes Nickelback?

listening to "Isak" now and it basically scans to me as "monotone grunge dude sings over Tool-influenced music" but I'm finding it a more compelling package than that reductive description would lead you to believe, likely because of the "Tool-influenced" part

yeah dan's a total 'backhead

if liking tihyrm is a crime, then i'm a criminal

fwiw I'm listening to Green again and the first thing I noticed is that dude seems to have removed all the grungisms from his vocals on the first two songs

yeah, i dunno that "isak" is a great argument for baizley's vocal abilities. he's basically just bellowing harmonically over the din. okay, but nothing special. like the singing on the new album a lot better. better tunes, too.

ok i am listening to eula right now and part of the problem is that dude is a little pitchy at pretty much all the worst times. and he is doing some stupid vowel dipthonging with shit that isnt a dipthong.

ok i take that back this dude is super pitchy through like the last half of this song and it is nearly unlistenable for me.

i think i like isak because its fairly monotone bellowing, largely because i am realizing that this dude cant sing very well.

"eula" is kind of terrible, yeah

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l-r: Chad Kroeger, DJP

fwiw there aren't a whole lot of gis results of Kroeger with someone not in a band so give me a break

and no, baizley's not a great singer, overall

"Stretchmarker" uses Extreme's patented "More than Words" rhythm guitar technique

i'm glad for this detour, so we could out DJP as Nickelback fanboy #1

hahahahaha the second half of "Eula" is a vocal performance worthy of Staind

yeah i am not trying to be mean at all but it is just shockingly shockingly bad, like "oh shit we used the scratch vocal on the master" level bad

Dan what are the other 9 of the top 10 worst bands you like?

Man I'm not going to stan for Baizley as some sort of "great" vocalist, but I really feel like jjjusten is listening to a different Baroness album than I am.

yeah, me too. i don't always like what baizley's doing here, but i think he acquits himself fairly well, overall.

As much as I don't really feel DJP's Kroeger comparisons, I totally see what he's getting at. Baizley's delivery here is def closer to grunge than anything else. But I don't find it so terrible.

okay, so we are agreed. his voice sucks and his band sucks and his art sucks. plus, what kind of name is baizley? dumb name. can a moderator lock this thread now?

with my shockingly bad thing there i am specifically talking abt the second half of eula. i dont think hes a great singer overall or anything but theres something specifically wrong going on in that song

lol

i will stan for his art though. he may not branch out from his core look ever, but i really love it.

ok, i'll need to give "Eula" another listen, i thought you were talking overall.

eula is real bad

feel like this record lives or dies on its hooks

wait a min, dan likes Nickelback?

that's the word on the street. one report suggests that they were seen sitting in a tree

r-o-c-k-i-n-g, in a polite Canadian kind of way

considering how long we have known each other i am def not diming on dan for any questionable musical tastes because that is straight up mutually assured destruction

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listening to "Isak" now and it basically scans to me as "monotone grunge dude sings over Tool-influenced music"

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck u dan perry go listen to some goth bullshit

― and what, Monday, October 15, 2007 3:59 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's miller time!

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fucking gorgeous packaging...haha i don't even love it now i'm thinking about the vinyl lol i have a problem

yeah I kinda want it just for the vinyl. :/

mine came yesterday!

it seems pretty dumb that the actuall YELLOW AND GREEN version is like only 500 copies and on shitty see-thru vinyl

yeah i was too late for it mine is the orange one ltd to 1500

it seems pretty dumb that the actuall YELLOW AND GREEN version is like only 500 copies and on shitty see-thru vinyl

― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:12 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i already said it itt but......relapse! fuck those guys.

Orange is opaque vinyl and is gonna sound better #yolo

is that the swirly peach job, or the yellow-looking one. i like the peach. would buy, if i had 40 bucks to spend on music i'm already listening to.

anyway, i've listened to this a couple few more times. warming up to green, though it's spotty at best. figure if you swapped a couple of the better tracks in for "sea lungs" and "eula", you'd have a damn near perfect, if rather short, single album in yellow.

not sure that this music lives or dies by its hooks. i say that cuz a lot of these songs seem to get by on arrangement, texture and a burly sort of yearning - without being all that immediately memorable. personally, i think yellow's greatest strength is its sense of musical geography. in that, it suggests a 70s ideal: the album as a journey through fantastic lands. pink floyd, yes, king crimson, that sort of thing.

i do wonder, now that i've had a little time to process it, why there's so little trace of, you know, real heavy metal on this thing. i don't mind the soft, clean, processed sounds, but the "rocking out" moments are too muffled and polite to generate much heat. the fuzztone guitar at the end of "cocanium", for instance, feels like it's trying to bust out and kick some ass, but the production and arrangement keep everything too carefully reined in. the overall smoothness might even be more striking if it were subject to the occasional violent interruption.

but the "rocking out" moments are too muffled and polite to generate much heat.

this is completely otm

yeah, like hammers of misfortune go for (and often nail) the same kind of epic, slightly cheezy unicorn uplift, but they balance it out with some real chopping.

it's v. frustrating because the band responsible for this succinct blast of hooky, heavy, melodic rock with just a splash of prog sounds completely lost in the weeds now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9KMlf7p78

well, i do like Y&G a good deal more than you, so i'll quibble with "lost in the woods", but rays on pinion is badass, yeah. not to mention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xFxEwcZ2Q

do wonder who ray is and what's the deal with his opinion

i mean i shouldn't bitch about how the record sounds, there will hardly be any good sounding "pro" rock albums ever from now on so i better get used to it. and this isn't particularly obnoxious or anything. it's just good bass & drum sound are lost to history mostly. :(

I think the album sounds great, but it's true that it does not try to sound like 1972. But there's a whole shitload of bands dedicated to reproducing that sound, and many are amazing, recent ones being Captain Crimson, Orcus Chylde and Kadavar. Looking forward to the new Witchcraft too.