Mike McGonigal's book on the album contains a lot of rebuttal to those general accounts via Shields himself -- truth doubtless is somewhere in between.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've never spoken about it, but I think in large part Mike got taken for a ride on the good ship Shields there.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
If you are listening to a download that is 222MB in size, you are listening to a fake.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:01 AM
how do u know? fake megabytes?
― eman, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
The recent torrent posted on What.CD is a fake. It is not the remastered 2-CD edition of Loveless - it is the original CD run through mild DSP on someone's computer and uploaded to acquire seed ratio with trackers. Believe it or not, this is a lucrative proposition for some kids.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
there was a double cd someone posted on another loveless thread here that purported to be the remaster, but I couldn't tell the difference b/w those and the original. the isn't anything leak that was laying around a few months ago did sound different; not necessarily better, just different. if that was legitimate I don't think I'll bother purchasing it, I have no problem with the original CDs of any of these, frankly.
― akm, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
I must have the fake, because I can't tell any difference. Either that or my ears are still shot from seeing the White Stripes in a small club back in '03.
― Jazzbo, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I would bet all the leaks are fake. So don't go making judgements on it yet.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
which sounds better the fake disc 1 or fake disc 2
― eman, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
They did a spot on this, on "Freshly Squeezed" on C4 this morning.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
The real remasters are never fucking coming out anyway.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 15:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've downloaded the 2 CD loveless "resmaster"... I've only listened to each version once but so far I can't tell the difference between them and the old CD version I have...
― AleXTC, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
Supposed to actually be out today!
― Mark G, Monday, 9 March 2009 08:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
Now HMV has it as 6th April.
bye.
― Mark G, Monday, 9 March 2009 09:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
>The real remasters are never fucking coming out anyway.
OTM! This from Pfork's original news story:
"As initially reported on Wired's Blog Network and now confirmed by a Sony BMG UK rep, the only two MBV albums that matter (This Is Your Bloody Valentine was practically an EP anyway) will hit UK shops June 16 in newly remastered formats."
so that was June 16 last year and the delay has been because Shields has been writing the liner notes? Or cleaning chinchilla cages?
― Bill A, Monday, 9 March 2009 12:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
writing the liner notes.
They'd better be damn good!
― Mark G, Monday, 9 March 2009 13:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's also April 6th on Amazon : so is this really a remastered version ?
― AleXTC, Thursday, 12 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ok so how does the limited edition red vinyl "remaster" released last year fit in? To my ears it sounded much better than my old CD.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Each month Amazon bumps the release date back to the next month. These are NEVER being released.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's a race to see which comes out first, this or the next MBV album.
― Mark, Friday, 13 March 2009 00:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 13 March 2009 09:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yep, Chinese Democracy...
― Mark G, Friday, 13 March 2009 10:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Actually, soon it'll be time for another Loveless reissue-- mastering technology has changed since these were announced. So let's hold out for the 20th Ann. set.
― Mark, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
what has changed about "remastering technology"?
― akm, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
Now HMV has it as 6th April. 1st June.
― Mark G, Saturday, 25 April 2009 06:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
Shields: "I bet I can get in the news a lot just by talking about remastering those albums"man at pub: "fuck off, that was all a long time ago, nobody even remembers your band"Shields: "five pounds says I can get headlines"man at pub: "it's a bet!"
--
Shields: "I guess I'll be collecting my five pounds from you tonight!"man at pub: "oh do fuck off, those are headlines on a fucking website, nobody else reported it or even knows who you are"Shields: "five more says I can do it again with the exact same piece of news in four months"man at pub: "that's a bet right there my friend, website or no"
man at pub: "change a twenty?"Shields: "oh don't look so glum. want to double that? I could always talk about b-sides"man at pub: "LYSOL DOUCHE"
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Saturday, 25 April 2009 08:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've said it before, I'll say it again; they do not exist.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 25 April 2009 09:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh yes they do.
― Michael Jones, Saturday, 25 April 2009 11:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Lies!
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 25 April 2009 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
you think he's just bullshitting everyone about having worked on remastering at least some of this stuff? in other news, I saw MBV last night. Glorious.
― tylerw, Saturday, 25 April 2009 16:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
did they play the remastered versions?
― Dr. Phil, Saturday, 25 April 2009 16:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
there was a lot of defraction & thermal runaway in the signal chain
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Saturday, 25 April 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
MBV definitely emerged victorious in the Loudness Wars last night.
― tylerw, Saturday, 25 April 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
Now HMV has it as 6th April. 1st June. 6th July, for LP and CD formats.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Never happening.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
These will come out right after Chinese Democracy shit, Neil Young's Archives shit, well... never.
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
you meant 'before' there, but hey...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yes, cold medicine addled brain screwed that all up. Point made, I think.
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah now that the beatles remasters are actually coming out, these remain the only long-anticipated holdouts, I think.
― akm, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well, apart from the Desparate Bicycles anthology...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
and the dolly mixture anthology!
― the ring toun (electricsound), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
Derrick May will have made a new tune by the time these remasters arrive.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
My Bloody ValentineLoveless: Remastered: 2cd £8.99list price £16.99 your saving £8.00release date: 28-9-2009
Loveless: Remastered: 2cd £8.99list price £16.99 your saving £8.00
release date: 28-9-2009
― Mark G, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
Now it's in the race with the Kraftwerk box set.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Release date: 28-9-2009
ooh, hasn't changed for 2 weeks!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 14:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
It doesn't exist.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's there for people who are awaiting new material to get told "Pssh, how long has it taken them to do a RE-RELEASE???"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I wonder what it was that I downloaded.
― cashew and green pea pulao (fields of salmon), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
Never Happening.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink