A World of Constant Strangers: The Neil Young Results Thread

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So it's just down to Cripple Creek Ferry and Last Dance. Which will win?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

t-boooone!!!

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

"Change Your Mind" ftw

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

Both Cowgirl... and ...River narrowly missed out on my ballot, I think I prefer the former these days for the harmonies in the chorus.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

(Someone tell Alfred the coast is not quite clear.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

i almost voted for change your mind. ALMOST.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Hungry as hell, but I want to see this end before leaving to get lunch!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil2.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Alfred, the remaster of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere was the most revelatory to these ears. Vast, vast, improvement.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

I only voted for one of these top 2, so I'm hoping that put it over the top...

xpost: It worked!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Now I've got Last Dance stuck in my head. Everybody, sing: No, no no. No, no, no. No, no no.

YAY! My #1 wins! I'm so happy.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, one of my all time favorites. the opening guitar is up there with "marquee moon" in terms of pure musical bliss.

― tylerw, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:14 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Definitely; actually, discovered both "River" and "Moon" via Spin's 4th anniversary issue's "greatest guitar moments" list.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

So Powederfinger wins over Cortez? Seriously? I don't get you people.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

'Grandpa's Interview' it is then.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

I actually would have bet a decent amount of money on this placing first. And, after trading places back and forth with "Down by the River" for most of the voting, it looked pretty safe at about 50 ballots.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Alfred, the remaster of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere was the most revelatory to these ears. Vast, vast, improvement.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:23 P

Sold. "Round and Round" and the title track made by ballot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oddly enough, #2 and #1 both involve bad things coming from boats.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Soldier it is then.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

I actually would have bet a decent amount of money on this placing first.

Same here!

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

I don't get you people.

^^^

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Unlike "Hurricane," "Cortez" generally inspires excellent covers.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mind "Cortez" as a jam, but the lyrics really kill it for me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Where the lyrics to "Powderfinger" I think are some of his best ever.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

I think La Lechera summed it up nicely:

Cortez the Killer (predicted winner, how could it not be as it is the best song ever)
Powderfinger - look out mama there's a white boat comin up the river = every Herzog movie, which reminds me of Cortez the Killer, which makes me happy

Note: she had these at 8 & 9 on her ballot.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

wow!--I'd assumed "Cortez" the obvious #1--would've guessed "Powerderfinger" somewhere in the 15-20 range before the poll started......

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Cortez = 44 for me. Just never really loved that pace, never took to the story. It just seems so detached from all the rest of his catalog to these ears.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Cortez has my favorite guitar solo ever.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

I threw Powderfinger and Cortez around the same number of points, so whatevs.

Cortez would be nothing without the sudden switch to first person narrative though. Interesting to read on Wiki that there was originally another verse that got lost because the console went dead!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

I love "Cortez"'s lyrics, especially "I still can't remember when/or how I lost my way." Quoted that in my graduating high-school-yearbook photo.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't Neil say something like, "Eh, I never liked that verse anyway" ?

xp

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

interesting disagreements here! it's the lyrics that kill "Cortez" for me.....they're, how to say? I think they're bullshit.

Neil is often weird, awkward, cryptic, allusive, druggy; and I love him in all those modes. But "Cortez" is bullshit.

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

so what I'm taking away from this is that people prefer long, rambling, wasted Neil to all his other incarnations. which I guess is not surprising... but I wanted to be surprised!

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yes! The lyric-shift is everything in Cortez (Paul Simon is the master at this technique btw)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

Danger Bird >>> Cortez

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

The last verse is semi-redeeming, but it's hard to overcome "The people worked together/And they lifted many stones."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

Honestly not sure why you'd say that about "Cortez"'s lyrics--weird, cryptic, allusive, and druggy is a great description, and I think "Cortez" fits into that perfectly.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

The version he played in June '03 during the Greendale was spectacular, I gotta say.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

I'll retreat; it's hard for me to start breaking down a song I've listened to ten million times line by line. The lyrics just float by, carried along by everything else.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

^ this.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Numbers Add up to Nothing"= alternate poll title.....

Terrific work, clemenza--enjoyed the hell out of it!

xp: hmmmm--fair question? ok: it's a kind of abstract mythmaking, it doesn't persuade me that it has anything to do with NY's own perspective or experience, but rather seems like a distillation of the usual stuff about "primitive peoples"...

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't Neil say something like, "Eh, I never liked that verse anyway"?
Yeah, apparently. Not that I trust anything much he says about the merits of what he writes. (cf. previous discussions itt)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil1.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Thought "Cortez" would be super high, though I had Danger Bird and Down By The River much higher, but did not expect the #1 at all.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

it's hard for me to start breaking down a song I've listened to ten million times line by line. The lyrics just float by, carried along by everything else.

my sense about most Young epics...? I'm surprised (in a good way) that you guys remember lines. All I can remember about "Cortez" is NY going cod reggae on DANCING UPON DA WATAH MAN

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

I take issue with the notion that "Powderfinger" is long, rambling, or wasted.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

whoops! you were retreating while I was editing....no need to retreat! people's tastes in NY lyrics are very subjective; I mean, I have jr high school friends who love him as much as I do and we would all but come to blows over certain lines that allegedly "sucked"

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't vote for it, but I'm okay with it at #1--it's a great song, and an unpredictable #1 (within reason) is not a bad thing.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

so what I'm taking away from this is that people prefer long, rambling, wasted Neil to all his other incarnations.

The rest of the top 5 maybe, but I don't think this is fair to "Powderfinger" at all.

xposts!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

DANCING UPON DA WATAH MAN - what version is this from?

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link


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