Pink Floyd vs. Joy Division

BTW, FWIW I'm not much of a fan of Pink Floyd *or* Joy Division. I only own one JD album and I dont think theyre much cop.

And Ian Curtis really was a dreaful singer.

hey now. ian curtis was the scott walker of manchester

And?

and nothing. pink floyd's still better

Okay. I'm with you there.

FWIW, i don't think much of syd barrett or roger waters as singers either. david gilmour and rick wright had good voices though.

Which songs are sung by whom? I seriously can't tell!

the one that goes "HOW DOES IT FEEALL" isn't Ian Curtis.

syd = sings most of the songs on piper and "jugband blues"
roger = sings most of the songs on animals, the wall, and "brain damage/eclipse"
rick wright and david gilmour sound a bit alike -- wright's voice is higher and softer, gilmour's is lower and gruffer. e.g., gilmour sings lead on the verses, and wright sings backup on the bridges, for "time" and "us and them."

I love David Gilmour's voice but his guitar playing is even better. I think we all know who the real genius of the two from the second version of Pink Floyd is and it is not Roger Waters. Amused To Death showed the truth of his second banana ability.

"Learning To Fly" is a surprisingly durable and awesome song from swansong-era Floyd.

Just remember that every time you listen to Joy Division vocals you are also listening to Interpol and She Wants Revenge vocals...
Joy Division fans must have similar voices themselves.. there has to be some Freudian explanation to why people enjoy that kind of singing or else people must be really good at tuning out all the vocal parts.

it took me a long time to be able to deal with Ian's vocals but it was worth the wait.

IC's vocals, like Morrissey's, are a huge barrier for some people. But, as with Morrissey, once it clicks, you realize that he's an amazing and original singer.

well I was able to get into The Smiths and Arthur Russell - so I dunno about that theory (but maybe I just understand those vocals on a Freudian level? - I mean I do think they are quite good) - I'll quit posting about this

Ian Curtis never had the opportunity to grow out of his awkward phase the way Morrissey did (the singing on the Smiths' debut is markedly different from what he was doing on The Queen Is Dead), so it makes sense that people would have lingering issues with Joy Division on those grounds. It is definitely worth getting past that, though, as a lot of Joy Division's songs are just staggering.

I understand Ian Curtis' vocals on a Freudian level.

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These two seem equally matched to me, I was wondering what ILX thinks.

huh

ILX agrees

A rogue moderator is editing polls with impunity

WAU what a poll. Kinda like when James Brown & The Beatles were tied...

wait what 42 ppl like pink floyd lol

wait what anybody likes joy division lol

Fuckin' hell.

Hey I could have been the tie-breaker, and I would have voted for.....

(Don't agree that the vocals on Unknown Pleasures represent an 'awkward phase', esp compared to vocals on any New Order.)

I was reading some blog last night that referenced this poll.

Unrelatedly, when I was in school there were some stoner kids slightly older than me, and they used to draw Pink Floyd pictures during art class. (clouds) They also had a book about the Velvet Underground and explained that they were like a New York version of the Doors. I wonder what they would have thought about Joy Division if they had ever heard of them. They were the wrong kind of kids to know about Joy Division.

One of them got arrested one morning for satanic massacre, but it wasn't her, just her friends.

so proud of my PF vote now

They also had a book about the Velvet Underground and explained that they were like a New York version of the Doors.

stoner kids otm

Was the VU book called Uptight: The Velvet Underground Story?

I love this thread result, I thought Floyd would get slaughtered.

this is how the who vs queen thread should have ended up

yeah, if queen was as good as joy division, maybe

I thought PF would walk this. My JD vote saved the day!

Yeah I just came here to say the same thing...I was sure Pink Floyd would get this by a wide margin just in terms of every Tom, Dick & Harry knowing who they are and all the records sold...so this says something interesting about the makeup of ILX, I think.

ilxors in ilx shockah

Glad I added to the JD vote, too.

42 people are wrong in this poll.

One of them got arrested one morning for satanic massacre, but it wasn't her, just her friends.

― james k polk, Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:30 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1985 Houston, TX On 8-5-85 a Satanic Cult comprised of Harold Glenn Smith, Martin Wayne Tosh, Michael Gene Cravey, Shannon Rivera, and Bridgette Stowe, ages ranging from 16-18, had grown tired of sacrificing animals and decided to move on to bigger game. Smith, known as “The Wizard”, decided to sacrifice Dennis Keith Medler to Satan, because he previously had kicked he and Tosh out of his home. Lured to a secluded area on the ruse of picking psychedelic mushrooms, all took turns slashing his throat. Smith told the victim’s lifeless body, “Hey Keith, it was nothing person, we just wanted to see someone die.”“The Wizard” received life, plus a $10,000 fine.

I had a crush on Shannon's best friend, she wasn't there that day, but she did get taken away. I remember one day we talked about the Beatles. She liked "Money Can't Buy You Love." I liked their Chuck Berry covers. I told her about an Elvis Costello song that had the same name as her. (not Shannon, the other girl) a few years later, I partied with her brother. I'm already deeper into my memory than I want to go.

In conclusion, people used to smoke pot and take LSD and pretend they were Gnomes on Bikes, but then they would go out at night and Insert things into Bodies. No Love Lost.

42 people are wrong in this poll.

― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:30 (9 hours ago)

No, 84 people are right.

Ha. Voted JD -- obviously -- but delighted with this result all the same.

Hahahah Bimble is more Pink Floyd thank you...

Really, I love ILX. I mean who else, where else could you find something so ridiculous as a Pink Floyd vs. Joy Division poll?

it's so zany!

Hahahahah Frank Zappa might even be proud, who knows? LOL

I mean I'm just so happy we didn't have to go to war over Pink Floyd. Whew. We didn't have to have the barroom brawl. Everyone is happy. Oh man. Whew.

Ugh, this is not right. So not right.

No, it is the will of ILX. We can live with this. We can. Yes we can.

it is a thing of rare and wondrous beauty.