Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/ gets you straight in without an invite.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 07:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I went in on that link above, no trouble at all. I'm in the UK tho - maybe there's a problem with the US, I dunno.

It's awesome, btw. Nearest thing to the "universal jukebox" I've seen for a long time.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think it's staggering. At least 95% of my track/artist searches to date have returned results. And I like the concept of shared playlists.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify Premium is available in Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Spain and the UK. The Free version is only available in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and Spain.

It amuses me to see the adverts briefly appear in last.fm (and permanently in your Spotify history).

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is impressive. There's a lot more weird, small stuff on than I thought there would be, thopugh also mystifying gaps too.

Someone should set up a shared ILX playlist for Jan (then we can move to Feb etc to stop it getting unwieldy). I'll do it tonight if no-one else does.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. I was thinking of doing one for the Pazz & Jop Top 50 singles, and maybe the Rocktimists poll tracks as well. But it'll have to wait until tonight.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gaps spotted so far: no King Crimson, very little UK Funky, no Aeroplane mix of Grace Jones "Williams Blood" (although their mix of Friendly Fires "Paris" is on there). Remixes are generally well represented, though.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Remixes are generally well represented, though.

But not always listed as remixes, I've found. And they don't scrobble as remixes (sorry, I'll take that to the last.fm thread)

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

I also like the non-bloatiness: the software was running at around 14,000k on my home PC last night - so I could close iTunes for once, and benefit from the faster performance.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope this thing a) goes global so the US can use it b) they make a mobile/iphone app c) ushers in a new era of music use.

I confidently predict big 4 will put a stop to it.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

All the majors have signed up in europe, though. I suppose it's whether the US ones are far-sighted enough.

It's also notable that most of the big digital music holdout bands aren't represented- no Beatles, Metallica, AC/DC.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Every Stones album is there though, yay!

Another thing I've noticed is that the service avoids any queueing problems, as you occasionally get on, say, last.fm.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Last.fm is screwed unless they can come up with something as wide ranging as this.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 10:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

The DJ Khaled selection is spotty and Denim aren't on there either.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on. If you pick someone like The Sweet it takes about 5 mins to scroll through them all.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

How on earth are they going to make any money out of this model? I can only imagine that once they've got a critical mass of people using it, they're going to radically increase the amount of advertising.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

That and premium subs I guess.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

At the moment, the advertising is pretty unobtrusive so I can't see why anyone would want to be a paying subscriber. Which is why I'm guessing they'll up the advertising once they get enough people hooked.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Indeed, at the moment the advertising is infrequent enough not to annoy but I'm sur it'll increase in frequency. Service is good but not quite thorough enough, some bizarre gaps in artist's discographies e.g most of Sparks 70's output and their most recent work but little from the 80s/90s. Once they can plug those gaps, get on board the digital refuseniks and most importantly provide a mobile service then £10 a month would be very tempting.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Getting enough people hooked should mean they don't have to up the advertising - advertisers will simply pay more for a bigger audience.

Maybe if they get enough people hooked they'll be able to offer ad-free for £4.99 instead of £9.99.

I wonder how much artists are paid through this. We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on

So true - the other night I found myself marvelling at how many "a tribute to" albums Sigue Sigue Sputnik have appeared on (from memory: NiN, Soft Cell, Smashing Pumpkins, Madonna, KMFDM, Prince...) - who keeps asking them?

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

Or those bands could just set up a computer with their songs on repeat!

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how much artists are paid through this

Maybe, John D could answer. Hopefully I made him a few cents when I listened to 'Palmcorder Yajna' earlier this week.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well last.fm's royalty rate is $0.0005 per play, and presumably something similar in Europe too.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

So a million plays required for a measly $500? I don't think mobilising the ILM masses will be enough to get J0hn D that rockstar mansion.

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think that the artist would get much from each play but $0.0005 is shockingly low.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

My guess is that record company gets half a cent and the artist get 10%.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's a collaborative ILX playlist. just click on the link to get it going. I've called it ILX Feb 09 coz January is nearly over. Have at it.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's the Pazz & Jop Top 100 singles list. Only 10 tracks are missing.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

both those links give me "playlist not found" ;_;

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Me too any chance of a re-up?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've just re-checked, and both links are valid; indeed, I picked up Patrick's ILX playlist earlier today and added to it, and someone else has added to it since.

You have already got Spotify installed, yes?

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

no King Crimson

Eh? The first album I listened to on it was In The Court of the Crimson King!

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

x-post yeah all that's fine, it says "playlist not found" when the link prompts the software. Ah well.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeh, I tried the Pazz and Job playlist just there and got "Playlist not found", too. (And, er, yes: I think most of us posting on the Spotify thread about how we use Spotify etc have got Spotify installed ;)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Er, Jop. Obviously.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost Just re-checked, and there's still no King Crimson. The nearest you get is "The Court of the Crimson King" by 21st Century Schizoid Band.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Whit? Hang on ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Try this in the Spotify search window?

spotify:user:miketd:playlist:2zYHbXxldh3YIti4SM3doz

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

And also this:

spotify:user:raw_patrick:playlist:5QqAXZcbQtPFL0w1ShUiem

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

... fuck me, yes. It's all gone. But there is still a ghost page for them -- put in King Crimson and you'll see their name comes up in the little cluster of artists at the top left. Click and you get a pic and a biog but absolutely no tracks.

That's a fucker, because there was a tonne of their stuff up the other week. I thought I'd seen some other stuff disappear, too -- can't remember what, but I just put it down to not having paid attention. But no, some bands are obviously being taken down. Wow.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ah bollox, that wasn't the P&J playlist - try this one instead:

spotify:user:miketd:playlist:2tpQvA2ojTVgOLr6fozpFh

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hang on: Mike, are you a subscriber?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

... 'cos I can't get any of these shared playlists going. It's either a subscriber thing or a Mac thing, I reckon ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

can you (mike or grimly) see
http://open.spotify.com/user/ledge/playlist/1KqRMynsECGZ0Q4JTJ0sHJ

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes: I can, Ledge. You Mac or PC?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

pc.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes, I can see that one, Ledge.
I'm not a subscriber - I'm on the free version.
And I'm PC.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink


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