EW the 50 best MOVIES youve NEVER seen...made after 1991

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well, certainly not MI4 anyway. i dunno, they all have their merits, but i though iron giant was... a little too obvious? the humor wasn't as sophisticated? just a little slower, not as polished as, say, ratatouille?

iron giant is probably "deeper" than the pixar flicks, i'll give you that. also, a+ for bambi reference

anyway, also.... um, look, this is probably gonna just devolve into namecalling and snark, but... why is idiocracy racist? the black dude is president, he's smarter than every other character in a world full of straight up stupid characters (including the only middlingly dumb lead), he saves the day... i mean, ok, there's some pimpology going on and stuff, but given that basically the whole movie is making fun of a) white trash idjuts and b) the dorky white upper middle class dorks they outbreed off the face of the earth.... i just don't see it.

but, i'm open to hearing why i might be wrong, so: please explain the racism in idiocracy.

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 5 July 2012 09:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

surnames like Pendejo, Camacho and Chavez pop up a lot in this future world that is supposedly the product of dumb people reproducing too much

some dude, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

also think "white trash idjuts" might be a racially loaded term but hey

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Voted "DIG!" Saw this once because it happened to be free on Hulu -- it's a documentary about bands I don't know anything about or even really care about but it was riveting.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 5 July 2012 12:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think there is a big ilx thread on the racism or not of idiocracy

voted bamboozled

thomp, Thursday, 5 July 2012 13:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

why is idiocracy racist? the black dude is president, he's smarter than every other character in a world full of straight up stupid characters (including the only middlingly dumb lead), he saves the day... i mean, ok, there's some pimpology going on and stuff, but given that basically the whole movie is making fun of a) white trash idjuts and b) the dorky white upper middle class dorks they outbreed off the face of the earth.... i just don't see it.

some dude otm. the only real social difference between this "stupid" future and our own present day is the heavy presence of hispanic names and faces at every level of society. i just don't understand why judge thought this was necessary or funny.

contenderizer, Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok, i see this has been discussed to death by two camps on another thread. i'll call it a tie - i get what the racist camp saying, but i don't really see mike judge as some sort of kkk sympathizer or anything. comedy, sometimes it pushes buttons i guess. i still think it was funny as hell - all the awesome quotes on the other thread made me want to watch it again

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i can give him the benefit of the doubt that being from Texas he just thought of the ubiquity of hispanic names as the norm and factored in that it's a growing population in general, but not putting two and two together how that would come across in a movie about society getting dumber would be pretty naive/wreckless

some dude, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

24 hour party people both sucks and blows

who was the other two family house voter??

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 6 July 2012 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i think it's ok but i maintain u have 2 be a britisher of the rt age or a hardcore anglophile 2 rly get off on it

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have a hard time believing ghost dog is good but maybe i shd watch it

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I still have never seen 24 hour party people.

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 6 July 2012 00:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's kind of shocking, nicole!

i mean i can give him the benefit of the doubt that being from Texas he just thought of the ubiquity of hispanic names as the norm and factored in that it's a growing population in general, but not putting two and two together how that would come across in a movie about society getting dumber would be pretty naive/wreckless

this and the lack of any acknowledgement of class (who designs these machines for idiots?), plus having a lead be a squirming luke wilson who just frowns at everything undercut the occasional good bit (like dr. justin long). that he followed this film with The Goode Family and a movie about the misery of owning a factory full of lazy workers hasn't made me want to be any kinder to it.

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

everyone deserves to see george washington

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Extract is a terrible terrible movie. xp

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 6 July 2012 00:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp george washington is as good as anything by malick and also as bad, but somehow more affecting, first because they're little kids and second because they're non-actors

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would say it is actually better than any of the others english-language movies above it except maybe bamboozled

and uh i haven't seen the foreign language ones

of the rest on the list

chuck & buck (2000) - recommended to anyone who wants to watch a movie in which the best and most memorable line is "chuck and buck ... suck and fuck"

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha i saw it in college and that is basically the only thing i remember

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice results. of the top 10, i like 7 of the 8 i've seen. voted for bamboozled.

contenderizer, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i blathered plenty about my problems with bamboozled in the bamboozled thread, but i'll admit the good bits have stuck in my head more than the bad

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

felt vague motion sickness after enter the void iirc its p wack other than the rad title card/credits

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will go to bat for my summer of love, perfect blue, enter the void, backbeat

i'm w/ contenderizer about rescue dawn

ghost dog is not going to impress anyone who has not already been impressed with kill bill or adult swim

the orphanage starts out as good as ringu or juon or whatever but then degenerates into sub-pan's labyrinth schlock

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

enter the void perhaps best appreciated over consecutive nights in bed, on cough syrup

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

"lilya 4-ever" is great if you like stuff like haneke and "un prophet", which i quite do

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i recall thinking "the ref" was fucking genius as a hs senior

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i voted lilya. i shd really revisit moodysson stuff to cnfirm how much i recall liking that (&together) but im a huge stan of his

g. wash is good; i prefer all the real girls tbrr

johnny crunch, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

rescue dawn's solid, its going for something way different from little dieter. it has a very german sense of humor.

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 6 July 2012 01:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i feel like there is another movie with an "emigrating to western europe" plot that was in some ways similar, but i'm forgetting ... i recall a memorable sequence where they were arguing in a trailer park by the freeway and everything was beige or this nasty drizzly grey daylight color, somewhere like belgium or the netherlands.

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

similar to lilja-4-ever

i was surprised there's no haneke on that list

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

this and the lack of any acknowledgement of class (who designs these machines for idiots?)

computers designed and manufactured in days of yore, i think? ones that break easily and no one can fix? not sure it's important to the enjoyment of the film, i think it's pretty clear from the get go one has to suspend a bit of disbelief here. "just repeat to yourself it's just a show, i should really just relax" etc etc

on the other hand, people on lix are starting to quote messages in their responses! this is excellent, i've been lobbying for this for years! it almost makes me want to agree with you!

messiahwannabe, Friday, 6 July 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

People have been quoting things for a solid decade.

I'm not entirely clear on the thematic or stylistic link between Ghost Dog and Adult Swim.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 July 2012 06:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was surprised there's no haneke on that list

first time this has ever been said by anyone about an entertainment weekly list

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Friday, 6 July 2012 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

the orphanage was v v scary to watch in a theater, stuck with me afterwards

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Friday, 6 July 2012 08:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

One thing I will give 24 Hour Party People is that, as I recall, it's one of the few movies besides Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me that really captures what a loud club is like. The sound was amazing, but also the atmosphere, everything. I remember feeling unsatisfied with the ending, but maybe that's part of music history so suffer.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 6 July 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Since it's not the kind of thing you're likely to seek out, another shout for Fly Away Home: Jeff Daniels and Anna Paquin in genuinely fun/moving family/nature adventure directed by Carroll Ballard (The Black Stallion), Never Cry Wolf).

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 6 July 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

People have been quoting things for a solid decade.

yeah - on other boards! for some reason here they always say xpost here. xpost. geeze, which xpost goddamn it! there's always only like 927 answers per question/thread to chose from. i mean, yeah, i know, suppose i could theoretically decipher from context, reading all previous posts, but sometimes, what can i say tldr (<-useful webslang from other board[s?])

anyway screw it, ilx is ilx, i'm not complaining. i liklove the erase-what-you-were-typing-and-type-something-else thing they do here

messiahwannabe, Saturday, 7 July 2012 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've seen 13 of these. Probably would have voted for Together.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Saturday, 7 July 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

ok, so i'm making my way through various thread recommendations, and if i could go back in time and change the past i'd totally give happy accidents a vote.

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

DIG! was an interesting movie but i'd have liked it better if i liked the bands at *all*. all that talk about crazy dude's staggering genius and i'm thinking "it's just a mediocre indie take on 60's kitch, why does anybody even care!?!?" i remember being completely underwhelmed with them in the 90's or whenever they came out as well but i suppose they must have had their fans. still, interesting enough flick.

so, what should i watch next? i've now seen (in order of most enjoyment):

idiocracy (2006) 2
moon (2009) 1
ghost dog: the way of the samurai (1999) 7
24 hour party people (2002) 10
happy accidents (2000) 0
the iron giant (1999) 8
bubba ho-tep (2002) 0
marwencol (2010) 3
DIG! (2004) 1
layer cake (2005) 0
+ i tried to watch cold comfort farm but couldn't even make it past the first 10 minutes.

i tried to watch "together" but the subtitles seemed screwed up, so not that one.

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 23 August 2012 09:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

primer

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok, i understood maybe 80% of that? 70%? lets be generous and say 71%. i may watch it again today to see if it makes more sense. i understand it's meant to be convoluted and hard to parse the first time around...

anyway good recommend, i like time travel stories.

messiahwannabe, Saturday, 25 August 2012 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

two family house!! i loved that movie when it came out. it really spoke to me. michael rispoli's such an underrated actor. i actually had a dream with him in it a few weeks ago - i told him he was really underrated and he thanked me and invited me to eat a spaghetti dinner with his family, which i accepted

― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:15 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i watched this, def solid. the frank whaley narration is a bit bzarre imo tho. canks, rispoli is on 'magic city' on starz now tho not in it nearly enough yea love him

johnny crunch, Sunday, 30 June 2013 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rispoli is really great in the otherwise-useless The Rum Diary.

Simon H., Sunday, 30 June 2013 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink


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