You could have it so much better.....with the ILM albums of 2005

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i'm against them Lex and Ronan.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

did a guitar run over lex's cat or something???

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

That's the highest critical.. (kind of, considering how many critics/writers/industry bods are on this site) placing I've seen for Aerial anywhere.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

it would be great if MIA was number 51.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Sadly, it seems I was the only one who loved the Brian Eno album. Rather a lot of you liked this though (check the points)....

1. M.I.A ? Arular
(490.5 points, 36 votes, 7 number ones)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/ilxalbums/mia.jpg

Comment:

Savvy, self-mythologizing electro-hip-hop delivers on the hype.
O Nate

All the reasons she was slagged off (totally faux, art school graduate, can't really rap or make proper beats, exploiter of global street music) were what made her great. All the reasons she was praised (so real, so conscious, her dad's a freedom fighter don'tcha know) were at best irrelevant. But she ended up sounding like no one else, because no one else was caught between the two poles in exactly the place MIA was: the second-gen immigrant unsure as to wear the accoutrements of a second-hand ingrained culture to embrace her roots or for an art project, the pop enthusiast magpieing up the shiniest bits of the music she was digging and smoothing out its edges by equal measures of necessity and invention. A triumph of genius over scenius.

Key tracks: '10 Dollar', 'Bucky Done Gun', 'URAQT'
The Lex

other ilxors said:

Couldn't single out one comment from this monster thread..
This is the thread where we anticipate and then flip out over how great M.I.A.'s 'Arular' is

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

did a guitar run over lex's cat or something???

That just made me spit beer.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

well, at least i don't feel so bad now about not voting for either MIA or LCDS because i kinda thought they were from 2004 ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

that's probably the best defense of M.I.A. i've read.

Gukbe (lokar), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Never any Half Man Half Biscuit (save Stylus). Is it just me?

Gukbe (lokar), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

#1 SHOCKAH!!!!

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

jk

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

grass is greener, huh

gear (gear), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

"scenius"?

National Roffle Association (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I LOVED the m.i.a. mixtape. I think it ruined the album for me a bit.

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

hooray for Billy Dods!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, good job man.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

jed OTM re: Billy Dods (& throughout this thread, really)

National Roffle Association (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Billy if you have the time please can you provide a basic list summary 51-100 now, and the complete list at the weekend ?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"Never any Half Man Half Biscuit (save Stylus). Is it just me? "

No, the new HMHB has great moments but isn't that hot overall.

everything, Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

re: 579 albums were voted in the poll

question how many albums got at least 2 votes?

also can we have a laugh at coldplay's position in the poll?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel bad for not sending any comments now - I thought I might get a decent quote in there at least once tho - must try harder/less

The Isolee/Vitalic divide - it's like smart vs stupid techno, possibly...

i'm surprised Jed seems to like LCD! there are a lot of great bits on that album.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's the top 100:

100 Devin Davis - Lonely People of the World Unite 35 2 1
96 Sugababes - Taller in more ways 36 3 0
96 Mannie Fresh - The mind of… 36 3 0
96 Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II 36 3 0
96 Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Days Of Mars 36 3 0
95 Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow 36.5 4 0
94 Shortwave Set - Collecting your debt 37 4 0
93 Herman Dune - Not on top 37 2 1
92 Soulwax - Nite Versions 37.5 3 0
90 Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall 38 20
90 Fall - Complete Peel Sessions box 38 2 0
89 The Chap - Ham 39 3 0
88 Half Man Half Biscuit - Achtung Bono 39 4 0
87 Various - Kompakt Total 6 39 5 0
86 Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy 39 3 1
85 Rhythm and Sound - See Mi Yah 40.5 3 0
84 Gang Gang Dance - God's Money 41 3 0
83 TATU - Dangerous and moving 42 3 0
82 Eluvium - Talk among the trees 42 4 0
81 Go-Betweens - Oceans apart 43 4 0
80 Silver Jews - Tanglewood numbers 44 3 1
79 Jesu - Jesu 44.5 3 1
78 Modeselektor - Hello Mom! 45 3 0
77 Venetian Snares - Rossz Czillag Alatt Szuletett 46 3
76 M.A.N.D.Y - Body Language 47 3 0
75 Clipse - We got it for cheap vol 1 & 2 48 5 0
74 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - CYHSY 49 6 0
73 Opeth - Ghost Reveries 49.5 3 1
72 Of Montreal - The Sunlandic Twins 49.5 4 1
71 Goldfrapp - Supernature 50 6 0
70 Outrageous Cherry - Our love will change the world 52 3
69 Architecture in Helsinki - In case we die 52 4 1
68 Decemberists - Picaresque 54 5 0
67 Fall - Fall Heads Roll 54 4 1
66 Go Team - Thunder Lightning Strike 54 5 0
65 Stars - Set yourself on fire 54 6 0
64 Fannypack - See you next Tuesday 55 4 1
63 Amadou & Mariam - Dimanche a Bamako 55 4 2
62 Various - Run the Road 56 7 0
61 Akron Family - Akron Family 57 4 1
60 Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing my choir 57 6 0
59 Roisin Murphy - Ruby Blue 57 7 0
58 Black Mountain - Black Mountain 58 4 0
57 Andrew Bird - The Mysterious production of eggs 59 5
56 Richard Hawley - Coles Corner 60 4 1
55 Jamie Lidell - Multiply 61 6 0
54 Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock N Roll 63 6 0
53 Electrelane - Axes 63 5 1
52 Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft 63.5 5 1
51 Fiery Furnaces - EP 64 6 0
50 Daft Punk - Human after all 64 6 0
49 Franz Ferdinand - You could have it so much better… 65 7
48 Smog - A River ain't too much 65 4 1
47 Maximo Park - A certain trigger 66 6 0
46 Depeche Mode - Playing the angels 66.5 6 0
45 Annie - Anniemal 67 5 0
44 Juan Maclean - Less than human 67.5 7 0
43 Dangerdoom - The Mouse and the Mask 68.5 9 0
42 Bright Eyes - I'm wide awake it's morning 71 7 0
41 My Morning Jacket - Z 72 6 1
40 Tom Vek - We have sound 73.5 4 0
39 Alan Braxe & Friends - The Upper Cut 73.5 6 0
38 Konono no.1 - Congotronics 76.5 9 0
37 Stephen Malkmus - Face the truth* 78 6 0
36 Ellen Allien - Thrills 89 7 0
35 Whites Stripes - Get behind me Satan 90 10 0
34 Missy Elliot - The Cookbook 91.5 7 1
33 Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine 95.5 8 0
32 Patrick Wolf - Wind in the wires 97 6 1
31 Madonna - Confessions on a dancefloor 97.5 8 0
30 Low - The Great Destroyer 100 8 0
29 Sigur Ros - Takk 101.5 11 1
28 Deerhoof - The Runners Four 102 8 0
27 Wolf Parade - Apologies to Queen Mary 104.5 9 0
26 Kelley Polar - Love songs of the Hanging Gardens 105 8
25 The Clientele - Strange Geometry* 105.5 9 0
24 Ladytron - The Witching Hour 111 9 0
23 Saint Etienne - Tales from Turnpike House 111 8 2
22 Out Hud - Let us never speak of it again 114 8 0
21 Sleater Kinney - The Woods 115 11 0
20 Antony and the Johnsons - I am a bird now 116 12 0
19 New Pornographers - Twin Cinema 125.5 9 1
18 M83 - Before dawn heals us 141 11 2
17 Gorillaz - Demon Days 142.5 12 2
16 Hold Steady - Separation Sunday 154 13 1
15 Robyn - Robyn 155 11 1
14 Rachel Stevens - Come and get it 159 12 1
13 Mountain Goats - Sunset Tree 174 13 0
12 Kanye West - Late Registration 177 14 0
11 Girls Aloud - Chemistry 177 14 0
10 Kate Bush - Aerial 181 11 5
9 Broadcast - Tender Buttons 192 15 0
8 Isolee - Wearmonster 200 13 2
7 Sufjan Stevens - Illinois 205 16 1
6 Bloc Party - Silent alarm 206 19 1
5 Animal Collective - Feels 208 19 0
4 Vitalic - OK Cowboy 217.5 20 2
3 Spoon - Gimme Fiction 221.5 20 2
2 LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem 333.5 26 2
1 MIA - Arular 490.5 36 7


That's it for this year. Thanks to all who voted, who commented and wrote pieces. Apologies to anyone who's emails I've ignored or blurbs I've missed, just a side effect of the chaos of my life, and not a personal dis.

The Eagle eyed will notice that Daft Punk is in a different position in the list above, I made an error and credited it with points it didn't deserve, it drops 7 places and the ones immedeiately above each move up one. No others were affected.

I'll try to list the rest sometime this weekend.

DJ Martian, Coldplay =177

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The Isolee/Vitalic divide - it's like smart vs stupid techno, possibly...

OTM!!! Vitalic just reminds me of all the stuff that I heard in the 90's 'electronica' years (not any specific acts, just generally) that's totally, totally dated and worthless to me now.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you Billy Dods - I will now respectfully withdraw my earlier complaint regarding the list and its Britishness.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Delia and gavin at 96! damn.

Stevem i like the LCD a fair bit and voted it #6 in albums with Movement and Yr city's a sucker #s 8 and 18 in the tracks poll.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.secondtoughest.com/music/covers/d410950f_1.jpeg

gear (gear), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

my votes:

albums

1 Smog "A River Ain't Too Much To Love"
2 Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom- "days of Mars"
3 Isolée - Wearemonster
4 The Fall "Fall Heads Roll"
5 Kelley Polar - Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens
6 LCD Soundsytem - LCD Soundsysem
7 Rythm and Sound "see Mi Yah"
8 Bohren und Der Club of Gore - Geisterfaust
9 Roisin Murphy - Ruby Blue
10 Gorillaz - Demon Days


tracks


1 - Morane - "Electric Pilot Girl (club Version)"
2 - Black Leotard Front - "Casual Friday"
3 - Noze - "Kitchen"
4 - Tori Alamaze - "Dont Cha"/ "Don't Ya"
5 -Theo Parrish - "Falling Up (Carl Craig Mix)"
6 - Nina Nastasia "Bird of Cuzco"
7 - Hot Chip - "Over and Over"
8 - LCD Soundsystem - "Movement"
9 - MFA -"The Difference it makes (superpitcher mix)"
10 - Isolee - My Hi-Matic
11 - Black Dice - Smiling Off (luomo Mix)
12 - Nemesi - "Cosmica (Lindstrom Mix)
13 - Black Mountain - No Hits
14 - The Books - Be Good To Them Always
15 - Carl craig - "sandstorm"
16 - Chicken Lips - "sweet Cow - Lindstrom Mix"
17 - David Sylvian - The Only Daughter (remixed by Ryoji Ikeda)
18 - LCD Sounsystem - Your City's a Sucker
19 - Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song)
20 - Smog - The Well

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

No Nine Horses, Mew and Boards of Canada in top 100 !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

New Order album confirmed as a critical flop according to ILM consensus = New Order NOT in top 100

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Great work Billy, and thank you!!

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Fiery Furnaces at 51 and 64. Fall at 90 and 67. Bands should never put out 2 albums in the same year if they want to see them show up in year end lists.

Jibé (Jibé), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Art Brut behind Daft Punk and a record released in 2004!

fandango (fandango), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Who the heck are these non entities? ;-)

100 Devin Davis - Lonely People of the World Unite
96 Mannie Fresh - The mind of…
96 Lil Wayne - Tha Carter
96 Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Days Of Mars
70 Outrageous Cherry - Our love will change the world
64 Fannypack - See you next Tuesday

Billy are you sure you didn't forget to add up the votes for Boards of Canada ;-)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

90 Fall - Complete Peel Sessions box 38 2 0

TWO VOTES? jesus! o well.

and i was cripplingly wrong about the arcade fire. [blushes]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Glad to see Spoon's Gimme Fiction get the respect it deserves. I love that record.

Mama Roux, Friday, 20 January 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

so, if my #1 is not in the top 100, does that mean no one else had it anywhere on their list???

peepee (peepee), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding the Spoon skepticism (British or otherwise), I would urge those unfamiliar not to disregard them on account of their terrible name or any misconception that they share much beyond skin color and gtr-bass-drums setup with their American indie rock contemporaries. They're in a whole diferent league.

Glaring omissions!: Superwolf, Jan Jelinek, Six Organs of Admittance.

Here's hoping ILM catches up with DIRTY PROJECTORS in 2014!

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Who the heck are these non entities? ;-)

Martian, are you being ironic? I can't tell.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I have listened to this Spoon record and can assure the skeptics that it is in the same league as other indie rock, only without any memorable or catchy bits whatsoever.

oldeilxz, Friday, 20 January 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

579 albums voted for, how many got just 1 vote each - several hundred ? that's the 00s summed up - there are so many albums that are released each year and access to information is much wider compared to 80s/90s print era resulting in more individualistic music listening.

even comparing say that late 90s on usenet alt.music.alternative to 2005 - there has been massive changes in the way people find out about music - more music forums, more webzines, blogs, mp3 websites, download culture, internet radio stations, bbc listen again, more sophisticated record label and artist websites.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

My votes:

1. Isolée - WeAreMonster

2. Audion - Suckfish
I'm not really surprised this didn't show up in the top 100. But one of the most common complaints I read about album-length dance-music releases is how they're spoiled by attempts to provide relief/contrast. Suckfish is full-on and relentless and it still manages to hold my interest from start to finish. I have a feeling the jokey track titles prevented some folks from taking it seriously.

3. Richard Davis - Details

4. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema

5. Deerhoof - The Runners Four

6. Vitalic - OK Cowboy

7. My Morning Jacket - Z
I'm ashamed to have voted for this. I think the band are great performers, individually and as a unit. I gambled that it would grow on me but instead I've completely lost interest.

8. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm

9. Alog - Miniatures
Today I wouldn't rate this quite so high. The best tracks kick ass but it's uneven.

10. Autechre - Untilted

11. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois

12. M83 - Before the Dawn Heals Us
Today I would rate this a little higher; turns out it's foreground music.

13. The Juan Maclean - Less Than Human

14. Imogen Heap - Speak for Yourself

15. Animal Collective - Feels

16. Coloma - Dovetail

17. The Clientele - Strange Geometry

18. Spoon - Gimme Fiction

19. Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase

20. Jan Jelinek - Kosmischer Pitch

National Roffle Association (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

So Arular is the shittist album of the year then? Thought so.

Merryweather (scarlet), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I miss something, or is one of the biggest shocks that Boards of Canada didn't make the top 100?

peepee (peepee), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

63 Amadou & Mariam - Dimanche a Bamako 55 4 2

can't believe this only got four votes...who was the other one who voted it #1?

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link

1) Kate Bush - Aerial
2) Edith Frost - It's a Game
3) Saint Etienne - Tales From Turnpike House
4) Electrelane - Axes
5) The Howling Hex - All-Night Fox
6) Cage - Hell's Winter
7) Sunn o))) - Black One
8) Ellen Allien - Thrills
9) Afrirampo - Kore Ga Mayaku Da
10) Low - The Great Destroyer
11) DMBQ - The Essential Sounds From the Far East
12) Ooioo - Green and Gold
13) Jackie-O Motherfucker - Flags of the Sacred Harp
14) Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing My Choir
15) Excepter - Throne
16) Ghostface/Trife - Put It On the Line
17) Superpitcher - Today
18) Bohren un Der Club of Gore - Geisterfaust
19) Sleater-Kinney - The Woods
20) DangerDoom - The Mouse and the Mask

gear (gear), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks again for doing this billy
my votes are here

sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Friday, 20 January 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Billy (I ain't posting my votes again).

Still pretty surprised Ellen Allien made the cut, stoked for the Kate Bush placing, very shocked Modeselektor placed at all given how late that was released in the year and how little action their thread gets.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh yeah gear that ghost/trife is good, shame I got it after the cutoff.

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"shocked Modeselektor placed at all" in the top 100 obv.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I didn't vote for the ILM poll, but I have a feeling that Gear and I are the only people ever to have both Edith Frost and Superpitcher in our top 20 this year.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link


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