The Ratpure

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I saw the Rapture last week & once again they've seemed to make another quantum leap from the previous time I saw them (which would be a mere five months ago, in this case). There seems to be plenty more where the Olio remix and House of Jealous Lovers came from, so here's hoping that the album does indeed come out in April, as has been reported. If you can listen to the last two singles and pinpoint exactly where they're ripping all of their ideas from, then I suppose you can do the same thing for "Screamadelica" (I'll spot you George Michael for free). If you need "Jealous Lovers" on CD and can't wait for the DFA 12" comp, there's a promo CD version (same tracks) that the band's been flogging. Happy hunting...

R. Lim, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

Isn't Olio over four years old now?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 12:46 (11 years ago) Permalink


dave q, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 12:48 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I thought the story was that the Ratpure were languishing on SubPop and DFA saved them and produced the HOJL 12", which is why Olio sounds nothing like how they sound now. Or something.

So anyone ever heard the pre-Rapture project the Calculators?

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

HAVE YOU, Aaron W?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

I want a copy (CDR even!) of the Insound tour support CD. Anyone want to make a trade for something?

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 14:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

Maybe, Andy K!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:33 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Olio" was first on Mirror, and that version is better than the 12"... the love here confuses me, unless yalls talking about the original version.

I have not heard the Calculators, but I'm guessing it's not too great, since Mirror, by and large, blows. But spill it, Aaron!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 15:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

If you check the Rapture site on, you'll see the old news update from August 2002 that says that both "House of Jealous Lovers" and "Olio" will be on the full length when it comes out.. so's you know...

tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Both the original and the remix are great, Yanc3y.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Re: Calculators. No they're good... in my past life when I ran a label I put out a 10" by them. Sounded a bit like the Faint in a good sort of way. Anyway, drummer split to join keyboardist/guitarist (who had already quit the Calculators by the time I put out the 10") to form the Ratpure. I think there were like 300-400 of those 10"s sold... I have three left.

I like the Morgan Geist remix of HOJL the best (does anyone else???).

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 16:03 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like the Morgan Geist remix of HOJL the best (does anyone else???).

Maybe, Aaron W!

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 17:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

to quote a great (fictional) T shirt I saw in Chunklet fanzine: "Gang of 4 Is Not A Genre, A$$holes!"

roger adultery, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:40 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ratpure are touring in the next couple months! Yay.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 7 March 2003 20:21 (11 years ago) Permalink

"Gang of 4 Is Not A Genre, A$$holes!"

ehheh genius!
rapture however r dud

schnell schnell, Friday, 7 March 2003 20:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

they stayed at my house once, but weren't very nice.

john fail (cenotaph), Friday, 7 March 2003 20:32 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
Ratpure are touring in the next couple months! Yay.

That time is now. revive? reviews?

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

god the new album is so good

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

they were excellent (tight, fun, funny) live and seem like nice guys, too. we all went to the same post-show bar and my friend gave the singer an aaliyah pin (how cute). the final encore was louie louie which was fitting as they came across as a total party band...there are some nice surprises in their set that i don't want to spoil...i'm definitely looking forward to the album now.

disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

judging by the show i bet jess is OTM.

disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

it's not quite the disco/nu-wave album we (?) had all hoped for - a bit of the old skronk, check the "careering" vocal grab on the title track fer instance - but "i need your love" and the re-recorded "olio" and the last-few songs are total mope-pop-disco genius. also, it DOES have "hojl".

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Grrrrr I want it I want it I want it!

I Need Your Love was on a Jockey Slut free CD, it is fucking great. They are playing here in July.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

I just "got" them the other day. I now want said album. It must be great.

Re:The Ratpure. gaz started a thread about this the other day. But I'm not going to tell you how to find it.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Rapture recordings I've heard have been pretty lackluster (I haven't heard much, though). I did see them back in December at the Bowery and really enjoyed the show. Of course they followed the completely obnoxious LCD Soundsystem (i think that's the name), so they may have benefitted from the "concurrence to shit" correlation.

Will (will), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure it's not as much fun as starring in Old School, Will, but both the Rapture and LCD Soundsystem are great...

(and my feelings on the rapture album are well documented)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

the new litmus test for all music = is it better than starring in Old School?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit music sucks!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

hey, I'm always willing to give a band another listen. They just rubbed me the wrong way that night. And easy on the name, I've been WF since 1976 (and Pops before that). Damn you Roxbury Bros.!!

Will (will), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

Gotcha, Will. Sorry about the name. It's just that J1mmy Fall0n trashed this place a few months ago.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

i love the album so much.

u+k - has anyone got the cat's cradle show from a couple of months ago that's floating around on slsk?? the few tracks i've managed to grab are fantastic...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

there's a feature on the Rapture in this weeks SF Bay Area Guardian (along an article on Richard Thompson, the British folk scene, and that Texas funk comp.... good week)

they're playing next Tuesday the 13th at American Music Hall. i can't wait

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Of course they had to come to my town the week before finals. Fuck!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 9 May 2003 07:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm digging on Echoes.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Me too! I've been even downloading it with a crap snail dial up connection.

So far I have "I need your love", "heaven", "olio" and "hojl", and almost have "open up your heart".

I didn't expect it to be quite so rocky. Still loving it though. Are there other electronic songs besides Olio and I Need Your Love.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

I don't have the tracklisting with me. Damn it. I love the one with the cowbell solo in the middle. Brilliant.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Haha! i'm just having my first listen Echoes right now, i'm a sucker for the Gang Of Four/PIL thing, i like it when the singers voice does the crossing betwien Tom Velrain and John Lydon.

rexJr., Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

when I first heard "House of..." I was annoyed. Im totalling loving it now though. I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

I feel like I'm very late to the party, but this new ILK is pleasing me very much and I am hoping it is because it is the right direction for music to go in and not just because I have a developed a nostalgic fondness for the very early 80s music this resembles. Not nostalgia for being there, nostalgia for just not being there (I mean I was listening to music then but I was under 10 so it wasn't in the same way as being a teenager).

Anyway yeah - I saw the Ratpure at Optimo a few weeks ago and it was a blast, and I love the LCD soundsystem mix of Le Tigre that RJG put on a tape for me, and some of the Radio 4 I heard was good. It's all just so invigorating.

Does this ILK have name or not?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

do you mean ilk without capital letters?

It's being called "punk-funk" as far as I can see. I like the Le Tigre remix too. I think you're still early enough to the party in some sense N, if the Rapture are to get as big as I reckon they will.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Punk-funk is fair enough. Yes - ILK=ilk. I just liked the look of it in caps.

What other tracks should I look out for?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like "Give It Up" by LCD Soundsystem quite alot.

I also am quite into the Playgroup album (called Playgroup) which is slightly older than the Rapture et al. I know some others here aren't into that but it's very cheap at this point and I think worth a purchase. It's a bit more funk in places than punk but it does have a pretty broad smattering of everything.

Best tracks which fit the "punkfunk" thing off that IMO: Overflow, Make It Happen. My favourite Rapture track is "I Need Your Love", also recommended is the DFA mix of Metro Area, I forget which track they've done but it's good, probably easy enough to download somewhere.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ronan: Download Sister Savior next. You'll love it.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Killing" is total jeep music

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

Agreed, Blount. That's what I said in my DFA thread a while ago...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

"open up your heart" is the stunner -- totally reminiscent of bowie's "five years".

mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

went to the show last night. super fun. they played all the hits and a bunch of new tracks. did a couple of all synth/ dance beat tracks. one was nearly a Cure cover. i wish the guitarist/ singer would stop doing that stupid, super high pitched falsetto like he does on "the pop song" from _out of the races_. it's 10 times more annoying live than on disc.

i never want to go to a show again. ever. why does "that one guy" always have to be standing next to me. you know the one that dances like he has epilepsy and falls all over everyone. and there were just way too many angled hair cuts and leg warmers.

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

if there's a guy dancing like a dipshit then you just have to show him up.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Jason, your audience description made it sound like you actually went BACK IN TIME to 1983!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

1. I love that the title of this thread is RATPURE.
2. DOes anyone have the tracklisting for Echoes?

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

if there's a guy dancing like a dipshit then you just have to show him up.

i showed him an elbow in the back a few times. and his girlfriend showed her grinding backside to my frontside a few times too. i mostly didn't like it.

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

it is surprisingly great tho...real male diva vibes from luke

LocalGarda, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

they looked at google over the weekend and were like "hey, we're trending!"

― dmr, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:05 (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Does anybody remember when ILX used to notify you if a thread got posted to?

Maybe theirs still works!

Mark G, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

It really *does* sound like The Thong Song!

Matt DC, Monday, 8 August 2011 09:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

thx for the link

I like "How Deep Is Your Love" but not really feeling most of the rest of this. dude's new singing style is taking some getting used to, when I heard the single I thought it was a totally different person.

dmr, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

"It Takes Time To Be a Man" went right by me when I listened to this before but it's kinda great?

dmr, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah that song is amazing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

someone put it on a mix and I was like this is good, who is this, some neo-soul white guy? Mayer Hawthorne? oh shit it's the Rapture

dmr, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i only have 4 songs off the new album (sail away, title track, how deep, it takes time) but they are all excellent.

mizzell, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

they were good live when i saw them a month ago too

mizzell, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will never not be laughing @ "The Ratpure"

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I made sure to find this thread specifically to bump

dmr, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

RIP bros, good times.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 9 March 2014 02:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

did see them back in December at the Bowery and really enjoyed the show. Of course they followed the completely obnoxious LCD Soundsystem

ha i was a gd idiot 10 years ago. that was a good show but LCD is way better than these dudes

condo associations are people my friend (will), Sunday, 9 March 2014 04:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

also maybe my first ilx post. wtf am i doing w/ my life

condo associations are people my friend (will), Sunday, 9 March 2014 04:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

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