Tango in the Night POLL (Fleetwood Mac)

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Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Monday, 23 July 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

C.McVie pwns all.

Steve Shasta, Monday, 23 July 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

The only surprise is how well "Welcome to the Room...Sara" did.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 July 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Correct winner :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"Seven Wonders" got NO VOTES?!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh shit I forgot to actually vote for "Isn't It Midnight".

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously, seven people think "Welcome to the Room... Sara" is the best song on this album? Surely these people have not actually heard it and are just assuming any Stevie song with the name "Sara" in it must be good?

It is awful.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Shame to see "Family Man" getting no love.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 19 April 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

just picked this up for £1 + i love it even more than i remembered but wtf at 7 votes for welcome to the room sara!?!!

just sayin, Saturday, 5 September 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

2. "Seven Wonders" (Stewart, Nicks) – 3:38 0

This is one of the fuckedest things in the history of ILM polls.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 September 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

just sayin, Saturday, 5 September 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf at 7 votes for welcome to the room sara!?!!

The seven core members of ilm's Stevie stans, innit.

DavidM, Saturday, 5 September 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah but what's weird is that it's the worst of her three songs on there. Voting for it seems terribly perverse.

Tim F, Saturday, 5 September 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

exactly!! it cant just be abt stevie nicks fans

just sayin, Saturday, 5 September 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

It's NOT worse than "When Will I See You"!

WASSA MADDA BABY....BABY...BAY-BEE....BABY!

My life is butthurt so badly (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i also picked this up recently and was surprised at how amazing it still sounds. "caroline" in particular deserves more love

psychgawsple, Sunday, 6 September 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i think this could be stevie nicks' worst contributions to any record she's been involved with imo

i wonder how many of the people who voted for "welcome.." are mixing it up with "sara" from tusk

surfin on my face (electricsound), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

" "caroline" in particular deserves more love"

this is spot on.

My issue with "Welcome To The Room... Sara" is that it sounds like a parody song, like something from that French & Saunders send up of Fleetwood Mac. It actively undermines all of Stevie's signature tricks. "When Will I See You" is merely weak.

Nicks' songs are amazingly strong on Say You Will, but then I've not heard the stuff she's done between the two albums.

Tim F, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Like Bella Donna, Trouble in Shangri-La, etc? If you like Nicks, you'll love the albums, but outside maybe one or two tracks (Nomad, maybe?) nothing really knock-out there.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I know Bella Donna, The Wild Heart and Rock Little, just none after that.

But then I rarely listen to those ones much. What's interesting about Nicks is that she really does work so well as a group player, even though her songwriting style would never suggest it. The half of Say You Will she contributes is possibly as much Nicks as I'd really want in one sitting.

Tim F, Sunday, 6 September 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

CAROLINE

wilter, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

all the "ooh ah"s in "big love" are still bizarre

kamerad, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Seven Wonders is pretty good, deserved a vote imo.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes "Everywhere" is brilliant. I was very annoyed when someone made a swirly house-pop cover version

Tiiiiiiim, who did this?

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

think i've heard it

basically they looped bits of it so it's longer and added some helpful echoes

truff sqwad (history mayne), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

theres def a balearic disco edit that jaxon posted on the noize board FM thread iirc.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

You've all heard this, I hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ovcZKmMpw

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

There is no way the Little Lies voters have heard the whole thing.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

jeez al i didnt know you thought honey hi was a dud

max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like i dont even know you and i cant trust your opinion anymore

max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

you talkin' to me?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zbCuD1ulA

???

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Duds on Tusk: "Honey Hi" (McVie), "Angel" (Nicks), "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Buckingham)

Duds on Mirage: "Straight Back" (Nicks), "Wish You Were Here" (McVie), "Empire State" (Buckingham).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:47 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I'll still stand by that.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

h8 you

max, Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

HONEY HOOO-NEY HI

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

No sacred cows stand in the way of McChallops.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

stfu and listen to the "Seven Wonders" 12", heathens.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

how did seven wonders get 0 votes and mystified get only 1??

Future_Perfect (LOLK), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Late to thread but I gotta agree with Tim above about "Oh Diane" being more of a dud than "Empire State" - I get what he's trying to do with it but it's still one of my least favourite Mac songs ever, whereas I really quite like "Empire State" even while realizing it's not top-drawer. But y'know, it's all taste.

Probably a good thing that I never voted on this because I realized that I've only ever heard the singles here. I really should get me a copy of the full album - I think I've given up on Rhino actually bringing out Mirage and Tango in their reissue series, what with the long gap since the first batch.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

TITN is their best seller post-Rumours too.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

yeah that song is such a chore

Future_Perfect (LOLK), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A+ 4Eva: "Caroline", "Everywhere", "Isn't It Midnight"
A: "Seven Wonders", "Big Love", "Tango In The Night", "You & I"
A-: "Little Lies", "Mystified"
B: "Family Man"
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D-: "When I See You Again"
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F: "Welcome to the Room... Sara"

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"isn't it midnight" is the only one i can't remember how it goes

all the arthur baker club mixes that came with the 12" singles are solid gold

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"family man" is the underrated gem on this album. such a simple song packed with so many little details. and lindsay's flamenco guitar solos are immense

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

the cover art for this album is just so perfect

just sayin, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

you know EXACTLY what its going to sound like

just sayin, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

just sayin.

ouroboros shoal (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIn-pUYMBg4

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

LOVING the two part You & I, tbh

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link

Really digging into extras on the deluxe reissue and damn if there is some good stuff. I have to wonder if Buckingham was on some Prince kick with all of his vocal moves throughout the material.

The subtle changes in the alternate version of “Mystified” have me feeling like that was the kind of sound ABBA would have been putting out if they’d stayed together.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

"Little Lies" is such a perfectly constructed song abetted by sympathetic production that I never tire of it. I often think Nicks' nasally TELL ME LIIIES chorus backup vocal is the shrewdest, most moving of her Mac tenure.


As with most things between these two, I feel Stevie’s line can’t really be divorced from Lindsey’s hyper multitracked and compressed “TELL ME/TELL ME LIES!”

Pretty sure huge hunks of the album were patched together with a Fairlight. I was blown away learning from the Replacements book that Jim Dickinson used a Fairlight to cobble together acceptable drum takes, and if even the Replacements were (unwittingly) using the Fairlight for that purpose there is no way that Bucky wasn't doing it the same way (and, coincidentally, the same year), especially given members of the Mac were as fucked up as the Mats (and Bucky, if he had his way, probably would have replaced them all with machines if he could have, anyway).


I think this is right. The template for this era is Lindsey’s Go Insane album, albeit with live instruments instead of simply stock library sounds.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

Agreed. The “Play in the Rain” section of the album especially popped into my head upon hearing the two parter version of “You and I”

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

Low quality bootleg camcorder recording of "Little Lies" from 1987. Sound quality dicey but comes off well

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

Better one from 90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxBP5CnRZwE

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

(tho obv no Lindsey on either)

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

Burnette/Vito sounds awful.

I want that Stevie cloak.

yeah they had big shoes to fill and they filled it with....oh u know

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

Reminds me that I've never checked out any footage from the Campbell/Finn tour. I'm really curious, because I can't imagine the addition of either of those guys ever making something worse.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

OK, here's a full show (Little Lies slotted second in the setlist!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHmWxsGLNcU

Sounds fine, the biggest problem is that neither Neil nor Mike sound much like Bucky.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

Admittedly, Nicks hasn't sounded much like herself for 35 years.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

I have my own biases/tastes, but I've seen Fleetwood Mac minus Christine and they sounded great. I've seen Christine and Bucky tour together without the others and their take on Mac stuff sounded great. I've seen Bucky tour with his own band and he sounded great, too, Mac stuff included. As if it hadn't been demonstrated by his absence before, clearly Bucky as constant is pretty key to the Mac sound from S/T on, either by force of will or force of musical imagination.

Of course, I've seen Stevie solo a couple of times, too, and she was pretty good as well, but she doesn't need to lean *too* hard on the Mac stuff, given all her hits. Bucky sort of comes at it from a different perspective, rewarding people with some Mac stuff for putting up with all of his non-hits. Which admittedly are often pretty great, but he knows they're not substitutes, just alternatives.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Man, this quaalude mix of “Mystified” with Lindsey doing Mike Oldfield interludes in the guitar is p dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558bIK_X1ZY

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 9 April 2023 11:29 (one year ago) link

i wish i'd grabbed the alt-Tango when it came out for RSD, it's £££s on the discogs now

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 10 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link


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