Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

the opening post of this thread is one of the best things i've ever done on ilx

also it was basically OTM

I wondered if something was wrong with my stereo the first time I listened to this.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:08 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

you know I got another copy much later just to be sure it wasn't my sound system, but no this album is just horribly mastered

the opening post of this thread is one of the best things i've ever done on ilx

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:41 PM (19 minutes ago)

haha yes

I spent the last twenty minutes rereading this thread and now I'm reduced to

http://blueridgebluecollargirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/old-crone.jpg?w=449&h=292

jeez, what will you look like tomorrow after healthcare is decided?

http://rootsaction.org/storage/clarence-thomas.jpg

still my favorite ye joint

bizarre, i didn't think it was anyone's favorite kanye album

nobody even put it in their top 10 in this, much less voted for it: Best 21st Century Release on RS's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time

it's a distant fourth for me behind CD/LR/808s for me, but still ahead of graduation

altho i've been listening to "dark fantasy", "gorgeous" & "devil in a new dress" a ton this year. those three are up there w/ the best shit he's ever done IMO

yass yass yass i love this thread .. pitchforks 10 for MTDF was completely hysterical. i can just see them all sitting around getting all worked up over their growing influence on the interweb, and the album and the concept of giving out such a left-of-center-10. a distant 3rd for me behind college dropout and late registration (although i still think its great).

nobody even put it in their top 10 in this, much less voted for it: Best 21st Century Release on RS's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time

― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:36 PM Bookmark

it wasn't on the list

oh wait, i thought this was the Graduation thread!

No, MBDAEAF is not my favorite Ye joint.

loooool rev

I listen to 'see me now' quite a bit, pretty triumphant song that makes me feel good tbh

altho i've been listening to "dark fantasy", "gorgeous" & "devil in a new dress" a ton this year. those three are up there w/ the best shit he's ever done IMO

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol the first 2 tracks are torture to me

I gotta say that the last two Kanye albums have practically killed any interest in relistening to his catalogue.

i still enjoy the old stuff when i hear it but yeah i don't seek it out anymore. dude is approaching Billy Corgan levels of insufferable personality plus artistic diminishing returns.

lol rev i was gonna stage an intervention for a second there

young jeezy's "put on" came up on random this morning. yeezy's verse so great i had to back and play it twice.

i sat down and listened to this record in full for the first time since not long after it came out, when i thought it was incredible... and i still do. pet sounds/SMiLE of rap imo and while rap maybe didn't /need/ that it sure is gorgeous.

(though yeah, the mastering job sucks, and i hope it's someday corrected.)

it's his All That You Can't Leave Behind, the least adventurous album in the catalog but crowd-pleasing in its synthesis of the previous albums

listening to this for the first time in a long time - the pusha t and jay-z verses are so out of place.

I haven't listened to this for a long time. Several drinks into my Saturday night and it's sounding pretty good!

It's "album of the decade" reputation has become a little tiring but it is indeed a great record!

Although there were a couple tracks I just didn't remember like "Devil In A New Dress", that don't seem to do much more than take up space.

“Devil In A New Dress”, really. I’d always thought that one had a pretty unimpeachable reputation among Kanye fans.

IDK, it might. I had completely forgotten about it.

This one gets all the accolades as his best album but graduation and late registration have the best songs.

oh yeah this album

the ranking kanye albums meme has made me instinctively tired just thinking about comparing them

also alfred otm

10 years ago Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift at the 2009 VMA awards. Since then we’ve known that as much of a foolish and rude way to express it, he was right, that Beyonce video is an all time best. The American tabloid vultures are the real monsters regarding this event, it’s bullshit how overblown they fueled the outrage against Kanye. However, it led to Kanye creating what is considered his magnum opus and one of the best albums this decade.

lol

Cool anecdotes of Rick Ross working with Kanye on this record :

https://www.thefader.com/2019/09/11/rick-ross-on-recording-devil-in-a-new-dress-the-best-verse-of-his-career/amp

There’s also this “making of” video of this album on youtube which is pretty cool and and I recommend giving it a watch:

https://youtu.be/6t0nipO6Rcw

I mean considered because I don’t think it’s one of the best albums this decade, I don’t even think it’s his best album, but it’s not a wild guess that it will come on top as a consensus top 3 album of the decade when the EOD lists starts pouring in.

i'm just glad that it seems like Kendrick will probably beat it out for #1 when it would have been the favourite for most of the decade

it won't even make the top 30

are we talking ILM EOD top 30? Cuz yeah I don't think it will make the cut either.

it's certainly not going to here and never would have, but i mean everywhere else

oh yeah this album

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 22, 2018

I mean it did just come in at third or something in that list from the guardian for the best records of the 21st century. It's very canonized, if not on ILX

gonna go out on a limb here and guess that yeezus will do somewhat well in any decade poll that ILX holds though.

Sometimes I think about listening to this but it feels exhausting

It's not even a top 3 Kanye album

it's a really frustrating listens because there are moments of brilliance but half the tracks drag on way longer than there's any reason for them to because no one was around to tell kanye "no". like off the top of my head, cut a verses from "gorgeous", "so appalled" and "hell of a life", edit down "runaway" significantly, and cut the chris rock sketch on "blame game" and then maybe there's a pretty good album?

there's also it having the worst mastering job of any album ever

Yes! For the ridiculous amount of people that worked on this record the mastering is pretty shoddy. It also most definitely mistakes ambition and progressive art with 5+ minute songs and crammed features. I don't care how many people praise it as a genius song, Runaway is just an ok song in heavy need of an edit, those last two minutes are honestly so fucking stupid, the ideas and hook in there are worth 4 minutes at most. The only track that deserves its length and excessive features is Monster.

The more I think about it the more this record feels like it only felt important in context and that context makes the whole thing feel way more important than what it really is, it's a self-mythifying record where the process of getting there seems more interesting than what we actually got. I like reading about this album more than the album itself. Good thing Kendrick took its crown since he actually has the ambitious albums to earn the GOAT accolades that GKMC and TPAB get.

That self-myth does seem to fool a great deal of people though. Take a walk to the garbage dump that are the music or hiphopheads subreddits and they're particularly defensive with this album, downvotes are had to anyone who dares say a negative thing about it.

It would have been a pretty shit decade if this was truly the best hip hop album in it.