Acceptable or Unacceptable: Coffeeshops that refuse to serve Espresso-over-ice

AND if these cheapskate creamer-stealers have a problem with the price of the coffee you're buying, go to 7/11 or the gas station or the grocery store ffs. it's not like you can't find cheap coffee anywhere.

affogato is espresso over icecream iirc

ha - I couldn't remember the term :)

right! gold star for u

my mom sometimes goes to coffee places and asks for espresso over ice bc she wants to make a latte but can't use their milk cause it's not kosher enough (she brings her own from home). sometimes they yell at her and she shows them her big container of double-super-kosher milk from home.

There are levels of kosher? I had no idea.

Mordy's mom: approved!

Super kosher!

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super kosher!

yay I get a gold star, thank u nakhchivan!

super kosher milk huh. cool!

sometimes they yell at her and she shows them her big container of double-super-kosher milk from home.

do they stop yelling?

:'(

but she's a tough lady, she can dish it out if they get too mean

ACCEPTABLE

Maybe people have a problem with the idea that adding 20 cents worth of cold milk to a $1.50 shot of espresso should make it cost $4.00.

i have no idea why you would want to drink it this way but i'm not going to get mad at people who ask for it over ice either

if ppl are going to drink on the premises then they will probably spend longer faffing about drinking an iced latte than they would if they drank an espresso

they steam the milk in a latte! even an iced one. so you're getting some other thing if you pull the scam, right? a con mucho leche or some shit. they're still getting their meager hourly wage for the labor they are not doing for the drink you are not getting steamed.

fuck if i was a barista i'd invite this kind of behavior.

Wait what? No they don't, do they? Pouring a bunch of steamed milk over ice would melt the ice real fast.

I'm sure starbucks doesn't do it anyway.

we need a barista in here, stat

i got into the habit of buying those stupid sugary starbucks bottled lattes which in at least one local shop cost more than any takeaway espresso based coffee from the pretty good café nextdoor

just stop drinking iced lattes everyone for the love of god

we need a barista in here, stat

I often like to hit speaker on my phone, speed-dial my secretary, say this and then hang up.

iced lattes are just chocolate milks w/ coffee flavor, what is wrong with that? should ppl stop drinking chocolate milk too??

You haven't lived until you've watched an uncomfortable espresso-over-ice interaction, and then at the table the friend tells you "did you see what happened there? can you believe that?" and then 10 minutes later you're talking to your barista buds and they tell you "did you see what happened there? can you believe that?"

i feel so conflicted, because i did see what happened there but i'm in a difficult spot.

The idea that you are too high and mighty to serve something that a customer asks for and is willing to pay for seems to me just too wrong-headed for words. You can tell them your opinion of their choice, but why force it on them? You aren't in business just to gratify your sense of your own good taste, are you?

lol a lot of big city coffee places appear exactly to be doing that....

well, there is the chef analogy to consider.

anyway, my REAL position on this is that the establishment has the right to maintain whatever control they want over the drink until it crosses the counter to the customers hands. there are bars that don't serve shots. there are breweries that won't let you fill clear glass growlers. this is basically the same thing. yeah, it's kind of lame and uptight but whatever just don't go to places like that if it is so bothersome.

(a chef is obviously concerned about providing a quality dining experience for customers - you don't get to tell the chef to alter the dish according to their whims)

so pouring espresso over ice 'shocks' it and is disgusting, savage, but pouring it over ice cream is fine and even has its own name? sounds highly plausible.

http://theotherblackstuff.ie/thoughts/shocking-espresso/

(a chef is obviously concerned about providing a quality dining experience for customers - you don't get to tell the chef to alter the dish according to their whims)

― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People make substitution requests all the time at restaurants!

also, if you want espresso on ice you should probably find a cheaper place to buy it than the kind of place that doesn't serve espresso over ice.

I HATE restaurants where they don't provide salt and pepper because the "chef has seasoned the dish to their liking". Get your head out of your ass. Ugh.

If a place refuses, why not just ask for a double espresso and a cup of ice. That way you can spare the barista the indignity of having to prepare an improper drink himself.

Sorry - I just really hate this sort of thing. It's snobby. That said, I've never witnessed this cheapskate espresso over ice in order to score a low-coast latte. Does it happen often?

xpost

keep in mind that i'm not necessarily a proponent of the Chef Analogy (i'm merely a conflicted, torn rebel with nothing to lose). but i think the analogy is to a very nice, nice restaurant where no, you cannot make substitution requests.

Incidentally, I was kind of thinking about the chipotlization of food today, how every place now is "Pick your meat, pick your veg, pick your toppings, pick like 5 different sauces and dressings" and how it's actually kind of gross sometimes but you always wind up putting too much stuff together because it's there and they offer it to you. I wonder what chefs think about that.

If a place refuses, why not just ask for a double espresso and a cup of ice. That way you can spare the barista the indignity of having to prepare an improper drink himself.

this is apparently what caused the huge incident that my friend created. he asked for espresso in one cup, and a cup of ice in the other, and they refused. bedlam ensued.

If a place refuses, why not just ask for a double espresso and a cup of ice. That way you can spare the barista the indignity of having to prepare an improper drink himself.

― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:14 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably the correct way to handle this and not a request that should be refused.

a low-coast latte.

haha how about an 'alabama latte'

tell the barista your five-year-old has a concussion

ZS - I know. I don't like that sort of thing, I guess. My dad is a chef and used to host dinner parties a lot. One of his friends smothers every single thing he eats in ketchup. Yes, everything. My dad thinks it's disgusting in insane but if Bob was at a dinner party my dad wouldn't say a word, he'd just put some ketchup into a sauce boat and put it next to Bob's table setting and let him drown his filet mignon in the crap. It wasn't in insult to the cooking, it was just some guy's weird food thing.

if you want an espresso over ice buy an espresso machine and make it yourself

I can understand chefs wanting to maintain some kind of overall quality control, which I guess can be put at risk if you let people who don't know what they're doing ask for stuff they think they would prefer. It's also part of the branding of the place I guess -- snobbism = artistry.

if you want an espresso over ice buy an espresso machine and make it yourself

you do realize a barista-quality espresso machine costs thousands of dollars and is complicated to operate

dammit, i meant to add that initial post was intended to be read in the manner of a "Read all about it!" newspaper kid from 1916.

anyway, my actual take on this is that coffee shops should serve it if customers ask for it, but in small, espresso-appropriate glasses, to foil the people looking to make an ice latte on the cheap.

i really have no problem with restaurants or coffee shops refusing to do or make stuff they think is gross and weird! they are not really obligated to cater to whatever requests except to the extent that it will put them out of business. there is no moral imperative here. i guess its dickish if they wont give you salt and pepper but if their food sucks and they refuse to give you salt they will probably go out of business so who cares

and if customer takes the small, espresso-appropriate glass and dumps it into a larger cup and then adds free cream to it from the counter,

FISTICUFFS

Local joint used to do that for iced coffees

serve it in a frosty mug

could be coffee who knows
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I tried the keep a mug in the freezer thing at one point (for beer) but I noticed it picked up freezer flavor* that tainted the beer. I still do it occasionally now, but only when I can put the mug in 20 minutes or so before I pour the beer. Coffee ice cubes is a good idea but requires more pre-prep than a glass of iced coffee should.

* Now available as a band name.

I make my iced coffee in a walk-in freezer

tbh idk what a little bit of extra water from shaken ice cubes is going to do to an iced coffee i mean is it really such a dealbreaker

shaker method sounds p good to me

xp you could chill your coffee by pouring it over a hanging slab of meat and collecting the drips at the bottom

let gravity and a huge frozen slab of meat do the work for you. it's easy.

Am I missing some reason not to keep a pitcher of coffee in the fridge, and pour it over ice as needed...? Does coffee get ''tarnished'' by refrigeration or something?

Never as good as fresh brewed, but I do that sometimes.

I was making my grocery list for this week and the first two things on it are
- butter
- coffee

good NYT article

"opening the fridge to find a jar of concentrate is as much a part of summer as a nectarine or a Carvelanche. "

had a good toddy today

well a few sips of one anyway

xp quiddity material

The thing that annoys me about my coffee shop is that they don't offer skim milk. Yes, I like it better that 2%. So I'll only buy drinks with no milk in it there.

let's get to the really important question: do you sweeten your iced coffee with simple syrup or sugar? syrup is obviously more effective but for my money it's just not real iced coffee unless i've got a sludge of crunchy sugar crystals at the bottom of my plastic cup, in easy reach of my straw for sugary sippin'

Sugar. Sweeten the coffee while it's hot, then into the shaker it goes.

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Unacceptable ban coffee shop foreva

Lmao

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