Is this anti-semitism?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmo#Criticism_and_controversy

Elmo has been referred to as the "Little Red Menace" by Sesame Street traditionalists[7]

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

dying @ "Elmo IMPOSTER"

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 25 June 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

IOC shot down proposal to hold 1 minute of silence for the Israeli victims of the 1972 Munich terror attacks. 40 year anniversary, 10th anniversary game-wise... The Olympic Committee makes a lot of stupid decision but there's a lot of people saying its antisemitism that's the real reason they won't do the minute of silence. Then again the people making this argument are saying it in articles like this and I'm not sure what to think:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/106409/jewish-blood-is-cheap

Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

can't say I really give a shit

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

well thanks for posting then!

Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if I'd say "antisemitism" but there's a good chance there's arab-israeli-euroleft politics in there and a smidgen of cravenness as well.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, the salivating of both sides to jump on it as proof of their point is so depressing that i'm not even going to click a story on it.

bnw, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the comment thread is quite the echo chamber of sanctimony and indignance, as you might expect. I think they should have the moment of silence though. I mean it has to be one of the scariest, worst, most tragic thing that ever happened to an olympic games. I mean what about making secondary that it was Israelis and remembering that olympic athletes were killed -- that's the kind of spirit the olympics ought to have, I would think.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

Did they do anything in 1992 for the 20th?

pplains, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really care, but even eurovision commemorated it when it was held in munich

Mordy, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

I'm certainly aware that there's a contingent who is probably trying to make a flag pin out of this issue, as it were.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

flag pin = the new shibboleth?

Mordy, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

In “Pink Triangle and Yellow Star” in particular, Vidal seems irked by the very notion of a conservatively-minded Jewish sensibility, or commentators who might advocate for interests not of immediate importance to isolationists like himself. Indeed, Vidal has long argued retrospectively against American involvement in the Second World War, in Europe or otherwise, and in the lead-up to the conflict was a supporter of Charles Lindbergh and the America First Committee.

when he was what, 14?

goole, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/books/99/08/05/SEXUALLY_SPEAKING.html

Gore Vidal's ideas about sex grow out of his ideas about himself: he is one of the last American aristocrats ("My family helped start [this country], and we've been in political life . . . since the 1690s, and I have a very possessive sense about this country"), and is angry at what new immigrants ("I think the Roman Catholic arrivals here have not been -- how shall I put this tactfully -- a great addition to our Republic") and the national security state have done to erode his patrimony. That patrimony includes a dignified tolerance that extends to sexual matters, and this is the principle that underlies his witty and entertaining polemics against the intolerant masses. But every cause that Vidal embraces has deeper and better bases for support than those he advances in Sexually Speaking. "All men are created equal" may not date back quite as far as the 1690s, but it is a better defense of liberty, sexual and otherwise, than the one presented here.

goole, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

"how shall I put this tactfully"

goole, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

Young Contrarian taking on Old and now Dead Contrarian in weak blog shocka.

Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

missed that vidal piece from a few weeks back but GV got the same treatment from salon, slate, the new republic, and a few other places when he died -- paul berman's essay was especially dishonest and infuriating.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

"...often used by Jews as an epithet to describe other Jews. "

So is the question whether a Jew can be an anti-semite?

pplains, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

272,000 google hits is nothing, basically

max, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

So is the question whether a Jew can be an anti-semite?

we prefer the term self-hating Jew thank you very much

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

"obsessed with gawker"
About 974 results (0.42 seconds)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, fuck ron rosenbaum

max, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

can he write an article without being a dick about hannah arendt

max, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

whoah waht yeah that's a dealbreaker for me

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

lol i haven't even read it yet

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

does he call her a nazi groupie?

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't get this far but max otm

One thing the new evidence has done is re-enforce a perception I’ve had that Hannah Arendt’s “banality of evil” description of Eichmann—the concept of “banality of evil” itself—is now looking ever more foolish. I’ve argued that Arendt arrogantly and ignorantly bought into Eichmann’s defense that he was “just following orders” in a way that absolved him from the “radical evil” that she, Arendt, once believed in.

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

A little more info about the jewish mouth stapling bizarro crime above:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2019017260_apuscollegestudentattacked.html

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

tbh i instantly check out when a writer feels the need to remind us that he's 'already argued' something in the past.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

xpWhich if you listen to the police basically = kid got beat up for some nonsense and then made up ridiculous anti-semitic fantasy which his parents are now running with...

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

way to not get it, ron

goole, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

I’ve argued that Arendt arrogantly and ignorantly bought into Eichmann’s defense

no, fuck you

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

he had a long terrible thing last year about arendt that was similarly and more insistently wrong, i mean almost a complete misreading

max, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Hannah Arendt: too nuanced, insufficiently vengeful

just one little Tayto (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_spectator/2012/08/_holocaust_obsessed_it_s_the_new_anti_semitic_slur_.html

― Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:16 (1 hour ago) Permalink

this article is complete crap and I couldn't finish it

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

kid got beat up for some nonsense and then made up ridiculous anti-semitic fantasy which his parents are now running with...

this was my suspicion tbh. getting yr mouth stapled shut is such a WTF method of assault there was no way that was real

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

xp lol i haven't even read it yet

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

I really think there might be a little more to what Arendt meant by "the banality of evil" than Rosenbaum is giving credit for

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Nope that's it, that's why she's arrogant and ignorant, right?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

there's the whole sleeping w/ a nazi thing too

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

(nb i really like arendt's writing and i mean any digs itt in jest)

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

if you HAD to pick one nazi to bone...

goole, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

iirc the last rosenbaum column on arendt leaned really heavily on her relationship w/ heidegger as a reason to dismiss her

max, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

every rosenbaum article reads exactly like this one. pissy, long, and full of pompous references to himself and how smart he is.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://m.forward.com/articles/162511

Mordy, Sunday, 9 September 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

I would answer in the affirmative, in regards to the thread title.

pplains, Sunday, 9 September 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link


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