Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

Somewhere Maggie Gallagher weeps:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/opinion/how-my-view-on-gay-marriage-changed.html

if by "weeps" you mean "purses her lips and narrows her eyes"

Don't you dare discuss her mating rituals in public, sir.

Roffle at this part:

And to my deep regret, much of the opposition to gay marriage seems to stem, at least in part, from an underlying anti-gay animus. To me, a Southerner by birth whose formative moral experience was the civil rights movement, this fact is profoundly disturbing.

Took ya long enough there, buddy.

guys we're only like 18 mos away from destroying western civilization. it's gonna be so awesome!

I plan to make s'mores over the ashes of Billerica

Rod Dreher is shook.

This is not a retreat, it’s a surrender. He surrendered for strategic reasons, but this is a surrender. Waiting to see what Maggie’s reaction is…

scanners.gif, I hope.

Crossed fingers!

Here we go:

My friend and mentor and one-time boss David Blankenhorn has just published a New York Times op-ed in which he gives up on opposing gay marriage. I haven’t yet read it carefully enough to respond, except to say that “the argument from despair” is the single most powerful argument gay-marriage advocates yield. I wish you well, old friend.

"You're off the Christmas card list BTW."

VV cover story on the "Gay Inc" corporatized activist culture (HRC, GLAAD, the usual suspects) and their intolerance of dissent during 'wartime.'

In March, the coffeehouse chain said it supported same-sex marriage. The National Organization for Marriage called for a boycott of the chain, and HRC told everyone to shop there.

It appeared to be a win for both gay rights and overpriced coffee. But that's only if you see gay people just as consumers and not as workers. As Daniel Gross, executive director of the food and retail group Brandworkers, says, "Advocacy organizations celebrating large companies like J.C. Penney and Starbucks, without challenging the impoverishment of tens of thousands of LGBT employees at those businesses, do a disservice to all working families. In our corporate-dominated society, it's certainly easier to get along when it comes to companies that interfere with economic rights, but working-class LGBTers and especially the many queer youth of color in retail deserve better."

Like GLAAD with J.C. Penney, HRC was less interested in LGBT workers at Starbucks.

"As a queer person, I find it upsetting that they tell queer people to shop at Starbucks," says Liberte Locke of the Starbucks Workers Union. "It's one thing to say congratulations to Starbucks, but when encouraging people to support a business, various things should be considered. Unfortunately, HRC felt the need to push queer people to spend money at Starbucks while neglecting other issues—the fact that most of their coffee isn't fair trade, the fact that they routinely fire people trying to organize."

Locke notes, "People actually came in saying, 'Hey, I've never come in here before, but I heard Starbucks supports same-sex marriage, and I want to support you guys!'" But the PR move, she finds, "has nothing to do with Starbucks supporting queer relationships. It has everything to do with [CEO] Howard Schultz finding another group of people to spend their money there. If Starbucks cared about queer relationships, they'd pay their workers a fair wage and give them set schedules, so that queer partners could develop their relationships. They'd pay us enough to pay our rent and to raise or adopt children."

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-06-20/news/gay-inc-free-speech-rights/

Tuck in that bottom lip before you trip over it, Maggie.

michael lucas is the fucking worst

good piece - thx for the link morbz

Darth Vader's daughter married

hey! is Maggie wearing a woman?

maggie short for Magorium

or Magnus

Meanwhile in Illinois.

Need a clip of Nancy Pelosi dancing to ZZ Top's "Sharp Dressed Man" at Bahney Fwank's wedding?

Like a nylon lemon peel.

Entertainment -- Rod Dreher gets tripped up by his crunchy-con spirit guide Wendell Berry. Between that and Blankenhorn he must be feeling a little sadder now.

Pobrecito:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-archbishop-elect-in-DUI-arrest-3818542.php

well at least he wasn't molesting children amirite

Meanwhile, something quite nice happens:

http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/post/30254767825/my-friends-meg-liffick-and-joe-ball-got-married

marriage equality passed first reading in nz parliament by 2:1 margin, tasmania's lower house just passed it ~40 seconds ago (no link yet)

Nice!

looking into the numbers on a scary poll:

http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2012/07/new-marriage-poll-results-dramatic-change-voters-views-%E2%80%94-or-fluke

A June poll showed support for the effort to amend Minnesota’s constitution to ban same-sex marriage eroding rapidly, with 49 percent of those surveyed planning to vote against the measure, vs. 43 percent in support.

A poll released Sunday, however, shows 52 percent voting yes vs. 37 percent no.

Can absentees vote on that?

idk but it'd be messed up if not

Absentees meaning expats - foreign residents can't vote on Governor races...

so liberal, minnesota

someone stole our NO yard sign but left the obama one

this is the most awesome thing ever, i want a poster
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/309233_10151925021655656_87099082_n.jpg

Support "Gay" Marriage? Liberalism Opens The Door

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2012/09/minnesota_marriage_amendment_supported_by_50_percent_opposed_by_43_new_poll_says.php

Silent majorities don't die out. They are merely replaced with identical successive silent majorities.

sick

The amendment is favored in all regions of the state, with the closest margin in the Twin Cities metro area where the "yes" vote is ahead just 46 percent to 44 percent. The amendment is also supported by voters in the 18 to 49 age group by a margin of 48 percent to 42 percent. "Likely voters" over the age of 50 support the amendment 51 percent to 44 percent.

call me blind but some of these numbers i find hard to believe.

In the media and in every public sector, the message couldn't be more one-sidedly anti-amendment in MN. That said, I'm talking mostly about the Twin Cities. That said, the Twin Cities account for about 2/3rds of the state's entire population.

By which I mean to say, on this issue, Minnesotans who have their minds shut appear to be quite good at keeping their mouths in the same position.

super-hot man-on-giant grasshopper action itt

the first vote-yes presence i've even seen was on ppl at the state fair. it was a legit surprise to me, which probably speaks to my bubble more than anything.

They apparently chose that venue to make their first big PR push. I'm sure I just DON'T know WHY they thought that would be a receptive environment!

is there a large evangelical or mormon pop. in MN?

there's enough. and stearns county catholics, etc.

I think going to the Fair with big signs that say "YES" and saying "it's for children" is pretty much the definition of how to run a successful campaign, sadly

this is the very best:

http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-magically-turn-you-into-a-lustful-cockmonster-chris-kluwe-explains-gay-marriage-to-the-politician-who-is-offended-by-an-nfl-player-supporting-it

This is what I mean. Religiously-affiliated private schools, cereal manufacturers, businesses large and small, and now even beloved sporting figures have all publicly sided against the marriage amendment in this blue state. What more will it take to turn this dial?

Sorry, preemptively throwing a tantrum I don't need to have for another couple months.

By which I mean to say, on this issue, Minnesotans who have their minds shut appear to be quite good at keeping their mouths in the same position.

― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is the weird and amazing thing about this. granted, Im in uptown, but I can't go a block without seeing at least two Vote No signs/stickers/whatever.