They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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Kris Kristofferson or Kenny Rogers?

Good 'Alien' drinking game: take a shot every time Dallas says "oh come on KNOCK IT OFF!" to any of the bickering crew members

lol hammered

That HULK crit thing is bad. Using a really terrible, badly executed gimmick to criticise Lindelof for being gimmicky? Whatever insight there is to be found in his pieces will remain forever buried in unreadable caps lock text. He needs to drop the act.

It would probably help, but it's not like he's writing in ancient Sumerian or anything.

I did use an online tool to transfer it all to sentence-case, but it's 6,000+ words of cod-psychoanalysis of Lindelof, and frankly I couldn't be arsed to read it all.

The Hulk conceit was pretty light, I thought. I'm not sure I've ever read that guy before, but it's like he wrote this epic exegesis, and then just randomly changed the occasional "I" to "Hulk." Which is to say, I didn't have a hard time reading it. It's in English. And the all-caps things? I get the internet vernacular, but, like, it's just capital letters. I didn't really feel like I was being screamed at for 6000 words. It'd be one thing if it actually was being screamed by the Hulk, but I had very little trouble using my imagination to un-Hulk it .... IN MY MIND.

yeah same. i cant imagine in a million years being bothered by it but i guess for some people its intolerable. in the early 2000s i posted on a forum where the predominant posting voice was all-caps so maybe im inured to it...

im not a fan of the lindelof psychoanalyzing but i guess he thought he needed to do something different since the internet had already documented all the plot holes and such

Welll also he appears to be a Lindehof stan (in so far as there are any) - the first positive words about Cowboys and Aliens I've heard there!

He is just oddly prescriptive on some stuff though - the linked review of John Carter was very "No, you are supposed to show the dead wife first so we can build up feeling for the protagonist", which, really? Are we not a bit beyond THIS is A story ARC?

fch hates cowboys and aliens! he wrote a good thing about how bad it sucks actually, but i think put the blame more on orci & kurtzman

hes prescriptive because hes a script editor/screenwriter irl - he should really be called screenwriter hulk imo

Ahhhhhhhh!

Meanwhile in Sullivanland

DavidM OTM... film criticism doesn't need a "gimmick" - especially an overused and unfunny one.

*crosses arms*

just saw this. it was fucking terrible in every way but design and music.

The first maybe 40 mins are good tension/premise building, imo everything after the first expedition was incoherent hackneyed cliche- and the incoherence is by far the greater problem than the cliche.

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, June 2, 2012

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus

thats just a list of them in order

think of how shitty the next one will be

prometheuses

prometheiii

prometheus 2

prom2theus

Prometheus II: Heracles Rising

forks/jjj MODFITE

prometheu2

Prom Night

aka THE CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF HIPPY SCIENTIST AND LAWRENCE OF ARABIABOT HEAD-IN-A-BAG

You liked all the music, forks? Even the gloopy inspiring stuff?

ehhhh okay not ALL the music.
i feel kinda like this was ridley scott's "alien tree of life"

even all the annoying parts
lalalala aaaaaaaareeee youuuuuu ssaaaaaad yeeeeetttttt
DUN DUN DUN AREEEEE YOUUUUU SCCAAAAARED YET
rinse repeat

eh, i liked the annoying SUSPENSE filler music
i dunno, i don't see films in the theater much and i generally steer clear of blockbusters period (prior to the avengers the last big film i saw was likely up) so maybe i was just fooled by a good soundsystem

@VGirl, would listen

Don't see how a plausible interpretation of the movie makes up for a generally appalling script full of unrealistically asinine characters and scenes that just don't connect with each other.

― Jesu swept (ledge), Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:17 PM (Yesterday)

agree. the problem with prometheus isn't that david lacks a coherent agenda. he's a bit of a cypher, but since he's a robot, it's easy enough to manufacture some sort of explanation for his behavior. his motivations, after all, don't even have to seem credibly human. the main problem is the idiotic dialogue and senseless actions of the film's human characters.

that said, i do like jjj's argument that david's goal is nothing less than the destruction of the human race. i don't know that i buy this interpretation, but i'm looking forward to thinking about it next time i see the film. and i will. though it's terrible, i'm a sucker for sci-fi, weird horror and puzzle movies.

all will be explained in prome3us (dir. Fincher)

Come on folks, what we really want is: BRING ME THE HEAD OF DAVID THE ROBOT

*applauds*

Man I'm all for this if Warren Oates is returned from the grave.

What about an android Warren Oates?

Fassbender - Holm - Henriksen - Ryder ALL ANDROID EXTRAVAGANZA!!!!!!

Fate of humanity decided by...

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(L-R: Lindelof, God)

Lindelof signs on to make TV series about .... ugh:

The Leftovers, produced by HBO in association with WBTV, takes place after the Rapture happens but not quite like it’s supposed to. It is the story of the people who didn’t make the cut… and a world that will never be the same. Lindelof and Perrotta will co-write the script and executive produce the project, now in development, with Ron Yerxa and Albert Berger. If The Leftovers moves forward, Lindelof will serve as the showrunner.

Key comment:

Great book, but the whole thing is based on around not explaining WHY/HOW it happened and dealing wit the reaction, aka, classic Lindelof. Will be interesting to see how Perotta’s intimate styles work with Damon’s…”think about it mannnnn” style.

wonder if faith will somehow be an element

In a story about surviving the Rapture? Nah.

yeah, by damon lindelof. not likely

Left Behind is being made by Lindelof for HBO? I love Kirk Cameron!

hopefully its in the more fucked up vein of post rapture life like a thief in the night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly4CPRE_Ke0

this movie features a 8 yo kid going to the guillotine at the end

To be faur to the book, it's very much a secular rapture--faith makes no difference to who vanishes and who doesn't.

To be fair to Lindelof, he'll fuck it up.

thanks everyone for softening me up

i finally went in today purposely ignoring any connection to alien movies and expecting an independence day type of debacle. i really enjoyed the stupid characters and appreciated the opportunity for david to relentlessly hardson the scientists and people of faith. i think vickers hit it best when she called her dad a mad scientist or something. it was a pretty good b-grade sci fi film pretty much up until the engineer woke up. i would have liked it if more of the characters survived the ending too. i think the flame has been dishonored thoroughly enough at this point that we can dispense of the one human + one robot surviving formula. anyway overall i'd call it a pretty good c-grade sci fi movie and i enjoyed some of it enough that i've mentally downgraded all of the original movies to c-grade in my mind too. really appreciated idris elbas stephen stills line and also the engineered garments jacket fassbender was wearing for much of the movie.