whiskey

mh there is debate about the extent to which the van winkles are actually involved in blending but otherwise yup that's correct for the bourbon.

the rye is a mingling of two aged stocks from distilleries that no longer exist. it's been sitting in a steel tank for like 10 years. supposedly they're going to start topping that tank up with buffalo trace rye over the next couple years.

Bars have no real prob getting Pappy.

well bars stand a lot better chance of getting it than consumers, that's true

ca.askmen

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f0oA56OE5Po/T4IQBRFowpI/AAAAAAAABD8/hxsZVuyENXs/s640/Amathus3.jpg

ca.askmen

― am0n, Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a living

xp and ever it shall be unless britishers discover a taste for bourbon en masse

it's a living

― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:07 PM

: ) cask, man

need to try that 2:1 ratio pro-tip, i've only done the few drops of water

cask rules everything around me

tbh i don't usually do the full 2:1 but i have been adding more than i used to and its good

makes sense tastewise, also makes the bottle last that much longer. win/win

Cripes, is that a fresh shelf shot from the UK of all the Van Winkles? What are the prices?

- wild turkey 101 is basically going away

WHAT

well....if you see it grab it. no more is shipping in 2012. depending on where you live it may come back in future years but my sense is that they're going to push the 81 and focus on keeping the supply of 81 up.

Also going away: Elijah Craig 18, to be permanently replaced by Elijah Craig 20, which costs three times as much.

yup

ec18 was underpriced for years, i wasn't a fan but the glory days are over for people who liked drinking tree bark

Cripes, is that a fresh shelf shot from the UK of all the Van Winkles? What are the prices?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:13 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i got that pic from this blog - http://bkarmstrong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/amathus-drinks-in-soho-london.html

ec18 was underpriced for years, i wasn't a fan but the glory days are over for people who liked drinking tree bark

I've heard tell of a lot of variation from bottle to bottle. Besides, Scotch fans are guilty of tasting for worse than tree bark!

xpost And yet, if you go to the Amathus site, they only show three variants of Van Winkle, and one is out of stock. The 23 is 275 GBP!

yeah josh i've heard that too re: variation

ive only had the Van Winkle with the guy lighting up the cigar on it. Worth the hype

15, 20, or 23? they all have the guy.

I've only had the 15. A friend got a Van Winkle flight at a restaurant (where someone else was footing the bill).

Woodford Reserve Rye Twin Pack: 2 bottles (375ml.) of Woodford Reserve Rye, one from New Cask, one from Aged Cask packaged in a beautiful wood box. CCL received only eight of these sets and we have them while they last for $69.49 per box. Treat your favorite Rye lover right and pick them up one now.

that is sitting in my cabinet. heard nice things about the new cask.

Tempted to go over there right now and buy it. They had other awesome deals too...

Is the Knob Creek rye out yet?

out in some states, not all.

Wow, Woodford Rye Master Distiller Twin Pack is $100 here.

My friend is going to Virginia next week - any tips for what he might look for there?

http://www.abc.virginia.gov/Pricelist/STRAIGHT_BOURBON_WHISKEY.html

Thanks!

http://www.abc.virginia.gov/Pricelist/STRAIGHT_RYE_WHISKEY.html

Knob Creek Rye is on there.

i want a litre of ancient ancient age.

yeah if i could get aaa around here i would buy it all the time

Sooo, I got that twin pack for 17% off of $70

Almost picket up some AAA today.

drinking Bulleit Rye w/an ice cube right now

thanx for droppin all the consumer knowledge here, this thread is like some kinda industry secret.

Sooo, I got that twin pack for 17% off of $70

― mh, Friday, June 22, 2012 9:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice! i think that's about what i paid.

it's the end of a long-ass week so i'm doing something i don't do often and enjoying a pour of george t. stagg

Friend came over and we did an impromptu tasting of each of the woodford bottles. We approve, but the aged one needs a sliver of ice/splash of water to open it up

The picture up thread is an accurate reflection of Amthus's current in-stock range of Van Winkles
In their Soho (London) shop (I popped in today because i was in the area).

The nice lady in there said that she seems to sell a lot of the stuff to very pleased American tourists. Prices start at £48 for the weaker 10-year.

$50 was what the 15-year was going for less than a year ago. Back when you could still sometimes find it. So £48 for the 10 ... wow, from an exchange rate perspective. Tim, how much the 15?

I didn't make a note, I'm afraid - I think it was something like £75 but don't hold me to that.

I won't be in Chicago for a few months but I'm a fairly regular visitor there, fwiw...

Ha, you got my wheels spinning! But even £48 is a lot for a bottle of bourbon, given we live in a golden age when, I dunno, bargains like Old Weller, Elijah Craig and Ancient Ancient Age abound.

UK prices for US-whisky are always high, except for supermarket stuff like JD.

It seems roughly that $x in the USA becomes £x here, at best!

Here is Amathus's online stock of Winkles...

http://www.amathusdrinks.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=winkle

so $101 for the rye; really not that much worse than it is here and with the added bonus of just sitting on the shelf

My excellent local drinks shop sometimes has Winkle Rye, for around £68.