Warning! Warning! Rye shortage is imminent!
They're predicting a two year (relative) drought, followed by a market flood, so stock up now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
source?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
I thought we were already in a (relative) drought?
*calculates the likely cost of a case of Rittenhouse 100, based on last price seen*
― i like slash and i vote (j.lu), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
rye popularity was somewhat anticipated but I think demand's outstripping supply. they have to spot possible trends so many years out, when it comes to aging liquors...
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
i just wrote some stuff about whisky wanna read it
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://sanfrancisco.grubstreet.com/2010/11/nations_bartenders_battle_for.html
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Also, rye (the grain) is apparently selling at an all-time high, around 50% higher than last year and about 125% higher than 5 years ago. And I've noticed the price of Rittenhouse creeping up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
yes, slocki, I do
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://ca.askmen.com/fine_living/wine_dine_archive/whisky.htmlhttp://ca.askmen.com/fine_living/wine_dine_archive/whisky-part-2.html
i shot the video too (but didnt edit it or add the music)
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I can't get to said site from work. Is askmen.com a "men's blog?"
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
ehhh apologies to a couple bartenders in san francisco but that article is not actually based in fact at all;
- it's well known that michter's 10-year rye was a limited supply of mysterious aged stock that was unlikely to be replaced (and was a lot older than 10 years).
- no one has been able to get van winkle rye for like 5 years, the allocations are miniscule
- wild turkey 101 is basically going away but they're releasing an 81 proof rye that is getting a big marketing push
- rittenhouse still drops about twice a year and heaven hill has been increasing rittenhouse production steadily for a while now
- willet has released a ton of 3-5 year rye to the market in the last year and it's great for mixing
- jim beam has been rolling out knob creek rye for a couple months now, which is a 100-proof rye that is going to have pretty stable stocks because that's what beam does
- no mention at all of sazerac which fluctuates in availability but isn't actually going anywhere
around here at least, unless youre a huge fan of wild turkey 101 rye, things are considerably better than they were 2 years ago.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
bulleit rye, although I have no strong opinions about it, is a newer product and seems to be available most of the time, too
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
yup. i mean a lot of people will be in trouble if the ldi/indiana rye dries up (bulleit, willet, redemption, high west, 4 or 5 other weirdo brands) but i haven't seen any indication of that happening.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
?? really? thats weird they had some at my liquor store in london
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
my understanding is that there's a ton of van winkle all over europe (relatively speaking). but in the usa there has been a runaway freight train of van winkle hype and it disappears as soon as it's dropped.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that must be it. theyve even had it behind the bar at a few pubs ive been to recently
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
I can't remember if it applies to all Van Winkle products, but I read that the current family member basically walks around the distillery sampling barrels and picks select ones to blend to make their product. Used to be Stitzel-Weller, now it's Buffalo Trace.
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah booze blogger i read was in glasgow recently drinking big pours of pappy 20 for like 8 pounds which is completely ludicrous to any american who pays attention to this stuff
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
mh there is debate about the extent to which the van winkles are actually involved in blending but otherwise yup that's correct for the bourbon.
the rye is a mingling of two aged stocks from distilleries that no longer exist. it's been sitting in a steel tank for like 10 years. supposedly they're going to start topping that tank up with buffalo trace rye over the next couple years.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Bars have no real prob getting Pappy.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
well bars stand a lot better chance of getting it than consumers, that's true
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
ca.askmen
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f0oA56OE5Po/T4IQBRFowpI/AAAAAAAABD8/hxsZVuyENXs/s640/Amathus3.jpg
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
― am0n, Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a living
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
xp and ever it shall be unless britishers discover a taste for bourbon en masse
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:07 PM
: ) cask, man
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
need to try that 2:1 ratio pro-tip, i've only done the few drops of water
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
cask rules everything around me
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i don't usually do the full 2:1 but i have been adding more than i used to and its good
makes sense tastewise, also makes the bottle last that much longer. win/win
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Cripes, is that a fresh shelf shot from the UK of all the Van Winkles? What are the prices?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
- wild turkey 101 is basically going away
WHAT
― Grimy Little Pimp (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
well....if you see it grab it. no more is shipping in 2012. depending on where you live it may come back in future years but my sense is that they're going to push the 81 and focus on keeping the supply of 81 up.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Also going away: Elijah Craig 18, to be permanently replaced by Elijah Craig 20, which costs three times as much.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
yup
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
ec18 was underpriced for years, i wasn't a fan but the glory days are over for people who liked drinking tree bark
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:13 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i got that pic from this blog - http://bkarmstrong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/amathus-drinks-in-soho-london.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard tell of a lot of variation from bottle to bottle. Besides, Scotch fans are guilty of tasting for worse than tree bark!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
xpost And yet, if you go to the Amathus site, they only show three variants of Van Winkle, and one is out of stock. The 23 is 275 GBP!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah josh i've heard that too re: variation
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
ive only had the Van Winkle with the guy lighting up the cigar on it. Worth the hype
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
15, 20, or 23? they all have the guy.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
I've only had the 15. A friend got a Van Winkle flight at a restaurant (where someone else was footing the bill).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
Woodford Reserve Rye Twin Pack: 2 bottles (375ml.) of Woodford Reserve Rye, one from New Cask, one from Aged Cask packaged in a beautiful wood box. CCL received only eight of these sets and we have them while they last for $69.49 per box. Treat your favorite Rye lover right and pick them up one now.
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
that is sitting in my cabinet. heard nice things about the new cask.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
Tempted to go over there right now and buy it. They had other awesome deals too...
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Is the Knob Creek rye out yet?
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
out in some states, not all.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, Woodford Rye Master Distiller Twin Pack is $100 here.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
My friend is going to Virginia next week - any tips for what he might look for there?
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link