harmlessly punching car /= destruction of car
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
its pretty clear they didn't intend to destroy the car, I can't believe this is even debatable
CAN WE RETURN TO DISCUSSING HOT PAUL RUDD K THNKX
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
yes, cameron dies, but at least ferris loves him
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I smell sequel! You're not the only one.
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
(No seriously, I'm not sure I get how anyone's arguing Gabbneb on this one -- the car's destruction is pretty clearly presented as some kind of grand rebellion that will ultimately free Cameron from parental authority, like now he's done his worst and can breathe easy and live free of fear.)
(I remember being like 9 years old and the big sleepover commentary on this movie was that when Cameron is staring into the painting at the Art Institute it's because he's seeing the car in those red lips -- look, do you see, how it's the car? -- because evidently 9 is not old enough to understand why Cameron would just be staring longingly at lips alone.)
― nabisco, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
http://www.howdesign.com/blog/content/binary/Paul_Rudd.jpg
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
huh I was unaware that Hughes was "reclusive" and hadn't made a movie since '92...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
what a tortured genius.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
an Arizona-based screenwriter named Rick Rapier
― G00blar, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i just realized: no one has said two words about weird science on this thread
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Talk about vestigial women!
― nabisco, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
comment from that link: John Hughes also wrote the story that is the basis of the upcoming Apatow production Drillbit Taylor.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
we're through the looking glass here people
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Weird Science is a horrible mess of a movie
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"Vestigial" is not the word I'd choose to describe Kelly LeBrock.
― Bob Standard, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Ferris Bueller 2: Local Hero
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Ferris Bueller 2: Longtime Companion
Brokeback Bueller
― milo z, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
lol
guys guys guys Bueller has already totally gay-ed it up as Harvey Feierstein
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
that movie is so gay.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
gayer than making out with Paul Rudd
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
xposts okay, so maybe I've just fallen into a Denby trap of thinking there's a real contemporary problem with female characterization.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Where does Mean Girls go in this arrangement?
― m bison, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
not a romcom
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean in the Apatow/Hughes debate abt teen movies.
― m bison, Thursday, 23 August 2007 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link
(idealization of suburbs and corresponding fear of urban-dwelling minorities/homeless, loads of mindless conspicuous consumption, etc etc)
Where were middle-class white teenagers supposed to escape other than to the city? It's a practical place for adventure and danger (and thus easy fodder for a film plot). Do you think fear of inner-city crime was something Reagan created? As crime grew worse since the 1960s people moved out and became afraid of going there. Surprise!
And how was the mindless consumption of the 1980s any worse than what occurred int he 1960s and 1970s? I'll tell you why it was worse, because Reagan was president when it happened. (He should've used his satanic powers for good and stopped it, right?)
― Cunga, Thursday, 23 August 2007 03:44 (sixteen years ago) link
what the fuck are any of you talking about?
― remy bean, Thursday, 23 August 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
who knows, more rudd pix plz
― impudent harlot, Thursday, 23 August 2007 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/753/753003/rowdy-roddy-piper-interview-20070103015702914-000.jpg
― remy bean, Thursday, 23 August 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link
stupid 80s pop culture being "reaganite" = god can we please retire this uber-boring critical trope PLEASE
― J.D., Thursday, 23 August 2007 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link
someone should write an article on how harold lloyd movies are reflective of the intellectual shallowness and corrupt pursuit of self-interest of the warren g. harding years.
― J.D., Thursday, 23 August 2007 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if twenty years from now we'll be talking about how "Superbad" was all about the Iraq war and the reason the two boy's friendship was straining in the movie was because they were worried about Iran getting the bomb or the possibility of a draft. Don't look at the superficialities of the plot! It's about Bush pulling their innocent world apart!
― Cunga, Thursday, 23 August 2007 06:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Plz to reread thread for the specific context in which I wrote "Reaganism."
someone should write an article on how harold lloyd movies are reflective of the intellectual shallowness and corrupt pursuit of self-interest of the warren g. harding years
Hasn't this been done already?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link
"Relax....You folks have nothing to worry about....I'm a professional"
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http://images.umvd.com/Toenails/aca1b72e511d4a5e8c91730619993ec4.jpg
― Mark Clemente, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/ward.jpghttp://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/edson.jpghttp://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/perlich.jpg
― G00blar, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/coffey.jpg http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/schmock.jpg http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/montague.jpg
― G00blar, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/cast/barberi.jpg
And how was the mindless consumption of the 1980s any worse than what occurred int he 1960s and 1970s?
Let me try this, briefly... The difference is the '80s is when conglomerates and bizmen who had not MADE THEIR CAREERS IN THE FILM BIZ began controlling the studios and what did or didn't get made. Which is why you get fewer Altmans, Rafelsons etc being greenlighted for anything at the margins of the studio system.
Reagan and mindlessness as the paramount value in mainstream entertainment are both SYMPTOMS of (de facto) unregulated capitalism; one didn't cause the other.
Again, as Jack Nicholson said at a Bueller premiere he attended: "These people are trying to kill me."
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I would really enjoy seeing a full-on bromantic comedy about how two adult men become friends!
Only tangentially to the point, nabisco: One of the gay NYC weekies is comparing the 'bromance' in Superbad to Midnight Cowboy.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link
^weeklies
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link
oh i see, it was conglomerates and bizmen driving everything in the 80s, and not the mass cultural backlash against the 70s, something that the kids of the 80s were raised into and then sought to get out from under (LIKE OH SAY IN THE CINEMA OF JOHN HUGHES).
I'm sure infantile 70s cowboy/lone ranger Jack's a much nicer guy than buttoned-up 80s family man (oh no, "family"!) Matthew Broderick
― gabbneb, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
those Altmans and Rafelsons, they respect the women, I tells ya
― gabbneb, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Biden-fan gabbneb characteristically obtuse about '80s capitalist ethos and backlash vs counterculture being related.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link
how do you explain Forrest Gump?
― kenan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
no, see i get which way they're related - backlash ridden by deregulators rather than deregulators somehow having diktat-like impact on mass culture
― gabbneb, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
he doesn't understand forrest gump any better than he understands ferris bueller
― gabbneb, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link
In what context, kenan? I've never seen Gump and have no desire to.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
(but I also find Clinton to be the most Reaganesque of RWR's successors)
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link