Come with me, come to the land of batshit rightwing cartoonists

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Faithmouse is art. It's just there for entertainment, mainly my own.
It parallels my opinions but not necessarily so. I have a rep for never flaming anyone, ever, in response to what they have to say about my cartoon. If you go through any of the boards I've posted on you'll see that's true.

Anyway, please continue. It's difficult to keep up on what my fellow batshit cartoonists are doing, so this is a good resource.

Dan Lacey, Saturday, 26 May 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, but it's a relative thing, the good artist label; especially on this thread. Compared with 80% of what's on this thread, he's picasso.

yeah, that's what I mean. Fuck, there's plenty of shit out there getting printed and syndicated like Gaggle or DbD where it is literally copy & pasted from panel to panel.

kingfish, Saturday, 26 May 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/bg0525j.jpg

All muslims in america are of apparently Saudi extraction, even the ones from africa and indonesia, and still do the towelhead thing.

Oh yeah, and even the most suburban, upper-middle-class 3rd-generation Muslim-American Ford auto exec, living in Dearborn with kids at university and a comfortable 401k, secretly has a saif tucked under his pillow for when the revolution comes.

kingfish, Saturday, 26 May 2007 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I suppose labeling that dude "humanity" wouldn't be sufficient

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 26 May 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, but it's a relative thing, the good artist label; especially on this thread. Compared with 80% of what's on this thread, he's picasso.

I guess it comes down to, do we hate what these guys do because it's poorly drawn, or because it degrades our public discourse with hate-mongering, obfuscation, elision, name-calling, straw-manning, well-poisoning, and McCarthyism? For me, it's the latter, and the best-drawn ones have always been the most offensive.

In any case though, yes, more batshit, please!

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 27 May 2007 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess it comes down to, do we hate what these guys do because it's poorly drawn, or because it degrades our public discourse with hate-mongering, obfuscation, elision, name-calling, straw-manning, well-poisoning, and McCarthyism? For me, it's the latter, and the best-drawn ones have always been the most offensive.

OTM. also, i think you get numbed by all the muck after a while and start to believe that this is how political discourse is supposed to look like. it's not. having said that, there is still some distance to travel before it hits the creepy low of the arabic press:

http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/cartoon_022502.gif

Jeb, Sunday, 27 May 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think this is "political discourse"; editorial cartoons once had a place where they could cause riots in the streets*. Now, anyone with a scanner and an internet connection can enter the fray and people with no legit training or talent can say the Crrrrrrrrrraziest things. It's populist chatter and it's good to know what this stuff looks like and to get a sense of what depths the POPULAR discourse plumbs, to say nothing of what sort of people and concepts the media are willing to hire to fulfill their strawman agendas, masturbation fantasies, hate fucks, hagiographies and to fill in that chunk of blank space on page 34A.

*yeah, yeah, yeah: Danish Muhammed, but that's an odd and rare case, to say the least.

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 27 May 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i use "political discourse" broadly as "the sum of all political discussions in a given region," i.e. encompassing the mainstream as well as the kitchen-sink discourse. if we use a stricter definition i still think these cartoons are symptomatic of how fierce the high-level political discourse is.

Jeb, Sunday, 27 May 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe. I honestly don't think they have any more import than your average blog entry... though what that means is open to interpretation.

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 27 May 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but it's not about their importance, it's about what attitudes they mirror. assuming that they mirror something greater than the creator's twisted conceptions, that is.

Jeb, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

In some cases on these threads, I don't think we can assume that.

kenan, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

fluxblog or tofuhut

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(this is badly organized and fairly stream-of-consciousness and i think i repeat myself a few times, so plz bear w/ me)

These things are mirroring what's said in the greater rightwing noise machine, which is why I pay attention to them as a way of checking in on the land of cracked-out John Birch batshittery.

One of the aspects of the current american RWNM is that the talking points and attacks are identical, from the talking heads on the shouty shows to the bloggers and down to the cartoonists level, so paying attention to the drawings is a quick shorthand(rapidly digested, rapidly passed on) to what the rest of the world.

Are these guys horrible for spreading the shit that gets said elsewhere, and being little more than conduits for the LGF message-boards writ large for what passes for Republican dialogue nowadays? Should we damn them for merely echoing the message, or by giving voice to their personal eternal and intenal font of toxic radicalism and 24/7 cognitive dissonance?

As to their impact, i don't think it's much more than everything else that gets churned out, in terms of message or reinforcement of rightwing strawmen/beliefs, etc. The fact is that some of these are little more than blog posts, and some of them are syndicated nationally(either on op-ed pages or in the comics).

The offensiveness of some of this shit to me is that while it is what I take as a personal attack and as reinforcement of the current debasement of overall dialogue, it's SO seriously fucking lazy, both in terms of actual drawing mechanics(the cut-in-paste mentioned before) and quarter-assed attempts at wit(michaelmoore/algore is fat lol). And the relative lack of the toons that completely lock into to the authoritarian things going on ain't too much, so even the shitty ones are brought to the forefront in an effort to search for balance or whatever.

It's like, yeah many of them blow goats as op-ed cartoons, but their bilious, hatefilled, and heavily anti-american message makes 'em worse.

Political cartooning is a skill extant for over a century & a half(in America, at least), one that can result in art. While there are plenty of half-assed left-leaning toons, this shit adds insult to injury.

But let's not freak out too much over mister faithmouse actually showing up here or our reactions. As the guy who took over posting these things from ethan last year(or whenever it was), I think it's hilarious that one of the cartoonists _actually_ drew a ILX-thread-specific image.

kingfish, Sunday, 27 May 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

But let's not freak out too much over mister faithmouse actually showing up here or our reactions.

Riiiight...

kv_nol, Monday, 28 May 2007 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link

let's Never Forget... Mr. Faithmouse may be Picasso and whatever, but he's still totally fucking batshit. Hi guys, the man writes cartoons about how Christian he is, and obviously thinks that most people should share his nutty opinions. Let's not get enamored or starstruck (hilarity!) with this nutty Christian dude who can maybe draw but is much more marked by the fact that he hates people who can kill their little babies, because they are obviously little babies and not "choices" and us librruls need to shut up because there is no other side to this arguement.

kenan, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

btw, this is bait...

kenan, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

this cartoon is perfect from a rightist point of view--maybe the best of the bunch even--it's the perfect combination of fact, fear, distortion and exaggeration:

http://www.creators.com/comics/37/4643_thumb.gif

Jeb, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

omg those are incredible (xpost)

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Those are from The Riskind Sketchbook if anyone wants to dig deeper.

Mike Dixn, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://web.mac.com/ryskind/iWeb/Site/Fresh%20Meat/3C6FB8A2-9057-4078-BA76-D52310297C49_files/What%27s%20My%20Name%21.jpg
I think Glenn Greenwald compared this meme to someone pointing to the obituary page as proof that population growth is a fraud.

Mike Dixn, Monday, 28 May 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

DRUDGE SIREN DOT GIF
Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan gives up her protest

But in Monday's 1,200-word letter, titled, "Good Riddance Attention Whore," Sheehan announced that her son "did indeed die for nothing."

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Glenn Greenwald compared this meme to someone pointing to the obituary page as proof that population growth is a fraud.

Well, technically it is global CLIMATE CHANGE people are worried about, rather than global warming. But I suppose you wouldn't know that if all you read is Georgia science text books.

humansuit, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Duuuuuuuuuuude. That guy invents new conventions of political cartooning in every strip. This whole celebrity puppetry thing is so far outside my language of how to read these things that I don't know where to begin.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm marveling at the sight of a caricaturist NOT caricaturing Howard Stern. it's really quite something.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that guy blew a deadline and just submitted a twelve year old strip he had lying around.

Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Dave and Whoopi have some serious orthodontia issures.
That Gaggle guy is lazy as a recliner.
Those immigration toons sure are offensive.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.patriotart.com/weekly/patriot_art.jpg

abanana, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

why is nancy pelosi holding a pack of hot dogs under her chin

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link

well, wouldn't you?

J0hn D., Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

it appears that the hot dogs have begun to melt and run together towards the bottom. perhaps another experiment in thermodynamics? I think I would've opted to stick 'em in my armpits, but to each his own.

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 11:57 (sixteen years ago) link

there is a joke here that i am not willing to make.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://joshreads.com/images/07/05/i070526hnj.png

and what, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, fancy questioning what the bible says. Madness!

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

gargamel's a priest now?

stevie, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

How dare this guy question this hotel sociality? Hasn't he read her "Letter from a Los Angeles Special Needs Holding Facility"?

kingfish, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah seriously super creepy old priest is not exactly a character I'd follow in the newspaper. half the clipart from red meat is more charming that that thing

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

More of the usual from Chip Bok, i guess:

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529ad.jpg

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529dd.jpg

The "using the firehoses on people" is a bit...uhm

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca0529cd.jpg

kingfish, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, am I being called gullible for believing that Lindsay Lohan does too much coke and Paris Hilton is really rich and drives without a license?

nabisco, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lies vicious lies

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

guys i'm sort of inclined to let these dudes say whatever the fuck they want about john edwards. guy really is sort of a two-faced douchebag.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't get his appeal, but the "attacks" the right tends to level at him are of the subliterate "Al Gore is fat/invented the internet haw haw" variety

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

true. still, dude is at least partly responsible for putting the american flu vaccine manufacturers out of business. way to go, brody.

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

oops, i've been had!

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

pwned

river wolf, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link


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