why don't our astronauts have elephant helmets? maybe this is holding us back.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
https://www.google.com/search?q=weyland+linkedin
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey man i got la planete sauvage on dvd, you know i'm bout it bout it
i just dont see the prometheus connection
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
love when terr interrupts the imagination session
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess i'm just in love with draag culture if you know what i mean
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have NASA, SpaceX, etc. flight-rated this guy's stuff? http://bobbasset.com/
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
what I was trying to say is "the engineers" should totally be like draagssauvage is so much more fun than verboten
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fantastic Planet, trippy as it is, is real social-commentary classical sci-fi at its core.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok - the last 20 mins of this were some crazy unexpectedly batshit Cthulhoid Hollywood filmmaking. What a confused yet gorgeous looking film.
― Pacific Rinko (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Demanding quality from science fiction is bizarre. Real sci fi fans embrace the shitness
It's this attitude that's given us Joss Wheedon, Lindelof and co.
― seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoa there buster
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
So when does this movie open again?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
the last 20 mins of this were some crazy unexpectedly batshit Cthulhoid Hollywood filmmaking.
Which is why Del Toro said Mountains of Madness had to be scrapped, b/c it has a lot of the same plot
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Avatar is dreadful. Far worse than this.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 05:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'M GLAD THAT's SETTLED
― contenderizer, Thursday, 14 June 2012 06:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, the similarities really are striking. engineers = elder things; black goo = shoggoths; curious explorers, ancient ruins and heiroglyphics, angry gods all present and accounted for.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 14 June 2012 07:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like this:
http://m.hitfix.com/motion-captured/prometheus-second-look-digging-deep-into-spoilers-and-questions
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://badassdigest.com/2012/06/08/sam-strange-remembers-prometheus/
Once upon a time, there was a show called Lost. The show was really popular because it allowed people to enjoy hokey sci-fi conventions without feeling like nerds. Everything supposedly serviced a very human story elevated high above geeky crap like that. It pulled this off simply by averring that it was pulling it off. It also kept things vague enough that people would invent the show's integrity all by themselves. By the time characters were time traveling and drinking magic water right and left without abandon, it was far too late for people to call bullshit and walk away. Brilliant.So I hired that Lost guy to write Prometheus. I figured it would go the same way. We'd get people to buy tickets on false promises of thrilling intellectual storytelling and then kind of abandon all that halfway through. It's too much work to make a great movie. But a great trailer is child's play. The masterstroke was calling it an Alien prequel and letting that pedigree do all the work for us. Again, brilliant.Prometheus is about a ship called "Prometheus" that goes looking for sort of a literal Prometheus. In a really cool looking prologue, we see a muscular Space Albino drink Space Acid so that he falls apart into Earth's water supply, therefore creating humans. But not Chimps...
So I hired that Lost guy to write Prometheus. I figured it would go the same way. We'd get people to buy tickets on false promises of thrilling intellectual storytelling and then kind of abandon all that halfway through. It's too much work to make a great movie. But a great trailer is child's play. The masterstroke was calling it an Alien prequel and letting that pedigree do all the work for us. Again, brilliant.
Prometheus is about a ship called "Prometheus" that goes looking for sort of a literal Prometheus. In a really cool looking prologue, we see a muscular Space Albino drink Space Acid so that he falls apart into Earth's water supply, therefore creating humans. But not Chimps...
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
― badg, Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is exactly backwards.
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Although maybe not, if you're positing that "science fiction" and "sci-fi" are two different things.
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
distinction between scifi and sf can just diaf, afaiac
― thomp, Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
SCIENTIFICTION 4EVER
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
skiffy
― Jesu swept (ledge), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
sigh-fi
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Guys it's SyFy.
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
phil d. otm
under the right circumstances, i like crappy crapmovies as much as anyone, but i've been a science fiction fan all my life, and i have yet to "embrace the shitness" as my default approach to the genre. because i'm a fan, i want better than that.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
all fiction is science fiction
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
The more I think/read about it, the more I think it's some sort of achievement that a two hour movie could have so many plot holes, loose ends, unanswered questions, unexplained motives, and even a character who may or may not be a robot (but probably isn't, though I'd like to believe she is, given that she's basically written like a robot are there are several indications she could be a robot to the extent that one crew member even asks her flat out if she is a robot, a question she does not answer, so she probably should have been written as a robot all along) and still be a fundamentally solid film in terms of direction, effects, etc. It's really kind of amazing.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's messy, like real life. Ergo, this film is the secret triumph of Dogme 95.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Most movies, even good ones, are full of plot holes, loose ends, unanswered questions, unexplained motives.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but not this many, and not this huge! I mean, there are reviews that are literally just perplexed litanies, from that Red Letter Media review to the Hitflix thing just above. None call the movie incompetent, because it is not. And yet, it's a total mess.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Usually if the script is this terrible, the film follows.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:15 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what really drives me in crazy are the people tying themselves in knots trying to interpolate some sort of profound meaning/reason for all the holes
― brony ver (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess that was being a fan of LOST in a nutshell though :/
xpost -- How dare you criticize the life's work of Coil and Michael Gira.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha, s1ocki so sadly otm
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
After Alien: "Hey, what was that Space Jockey thing, kind of makes you think"
After LOST-style mystery: "Here is my ten point conjecture about the meaning of this throw-away line meant to invoke occult ideas"
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
prometheus: a masterpiece of postmodern magical realism
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
also scifi and science fiction both for nerds and fanboys
adults read "speculative fiction"
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Let's speculate on the dull angst of dull people here in 2012."
"You are the new John Cheever."
*death*
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha i had never really thought about what a meaningless phrase that is
― brony ver (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
what if everyone in the world went blind all at once?!?
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/you-are-the-only-human-being-left-on-earth-not-in-graduate-school-a-post-apocalyptic-nightmare
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
kept waiting for zatoichi to show up and put everyone out of their misery, sorry jose
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Heh, from that other thing above:
In the same way David from A.I. was programmed to love without actually understanding it, David from Prometheus was designed to be a shithead without understanding exactly how being a shithead works.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think his contempt for humans was completely his own
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seriously. I think that widely circulated Livejournal post is the worst offender of this.
My thing is that the holes and mistakes and laziness are far more glaring because stuff like the characters are fucked in the head and do deliberately stupid things.
― Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also what annoys the fuck out of me: people who ascribe all the naysayers as just being disappointed that this wasn't a more thickheadedly obvious set-up for Alien, as if we'd excuse all the bollocks for a final scene where a derelict crashlands on LV426, a chestburster pops out of the space jockey pilot, winks at the camera, then performs "Hello My Baby!" with high kicks off stage left.
― Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm kind of annoyed that they did as much connecting as they did
cute baby proto-alien at the end was kind of cool, wish we saw it running through fields of grain all happy
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I actually like how they didn't have that be a post-credits bit.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink