They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

I am imagining the interviewers doing the funny-into-serious face of Sasha Baron-Cohen.

priority one

insure return of organism

for analysis

ha, never noticed the word use error before

maybe they were planning to take out some sort of xenomorph policy

heh

Or then again, maybe Ridley just wanted to reference 80s biker-noise band the Head of David at the end?

― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:33 AM (5 hours ago)

lol

have we talked about the coors light/promotheus cross-promotion ads here? guess they've given up on the prestige/quality image now that people have seen the movie.

so I have a t-shirt with big cooper black letters that says "Language is just math that's hard for engineers to do" - if I got another one that said "science fiction wishes it came up with the antikythera mechanism," which t-shirt would be the best

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Antikythera Mechanism device shirt of course.

BTW, hello Tomboto! Was wondering what you take on this would be.

The Antikythera Mechanism device shirt of course.

Put the slogan on the back, put a photo of the reconstruction on the front.

saw a pretty good nerd shirt yesterday, it said

i^2 keep it real

have we talked about the coors light/promotheus cross-promotion ads here?

I think robyn was the victim of a stealth Prometheus promo during Mutek

i^2 keep it real

dying

omg maybe i was! i srsly almost said no, no coors light for me, but i was thirsty...

Because I know you were all waiting for it, Andrew Sullivan is seeing this tonight. (He says he finds Alien to be clearly superior to Aliens.)

is there a franchise out there that varies as wildly in tone from movie to movie as the alien movies?

I'm sure Vivid Video has something.

isn't that a pr0n company?!?

is there a franchise out there that varies as wildly in tone from movie to movie as the alien movies?

I'm pretty sure Vivid's tone remains pretty consistent from franchise to franchise.

I rewatched the first 40 minutes of Alien last night but then i got scared bc i was all alone and tired and it was late. i was reminded that it is a really good movie, with good actors and a good script and good direction.
true story

Re: Batman -- I dunno:

First four Batmen: Darkly goofy
Next three: GRIM DOOM

Batman movies still carry a tone that's more similar, because it's Batman, after all, and he is a tone in himself (dark)

Start the franchise with camp Batman and you get camp Batman >>> Goth-goof Burton Batman >>> gaudy campy Schumacher Batman >>>> GRIM DOOM OSCAR Batman.

they should do some kind of tracking and find out how many people have gone and rewatched Alien as a result of seeing Prometheus

The Alien franchise carries plenty from movie to movie. It's not like, I dunno, Halloween 3. There's a shared design, mood, etc.

I was going to watch Alien again, but I pretty much have it memorized.

is there a franchise out there that varies as wildly in tone from movie to movie as the alien movies?

First thought was the James Bond movies, but that's more of a change from actor to actor.

Alien is good to watch again
especially because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH PROMETHEUS

maybe half a thing

I watched it the night before seeing Prometheus and sorely wish I hadn't, as it just made it worse.

The beginning of the two movies is the same, effectively.

Alien is so superior it's almost painful
if someone was watching with me they would've left the room because i would've been saying "oh my god, do you see this? that's how a sci-fi movie should be" every 2 minutes. instead i was just thinking it.

A board veteran weighs in

complaining about this movie diminishing Alien is so stupid

rrrobyn otm

i also blogged about some of the same points he hits... i couldnt help myself, i HAD to blog! http://markslutsky.com/post/24983621638/prometheus

nothing could diminish Alien, not even this movie - did someone say it did?

i read your blog post and otm-ed it throughout

i dunno--maybe i missed some things but i didnt get a "humans are special" vibe from the movie. kinda felt that idea was part of what led them into that death trap. almost a freudian death-drive kinda thing. and that the closing "that's why I'm human and you're not" (or whatever it was) seemed far more ambiguous to me than reaffirming the audience's faith in their own humanity.

i could def be wrong but some of the collective wisdom coalescing around this movie strikes me as a little off (not unlike what happened to AI).

it connects the dots back to humanity whcih is lame

making the aliens in this movie "genetically identical" to humans is also lame

xp Rather than there being a vast universe which has nothing to do with us and which contains unimaginable dangers, the dude in the chair from the original movie is part of a group that invented human beings.

Sure I guess but it didn't strike me as lame. Charles Peirce has a line about Ecclesiastes along the lines of "we do not know whether god bears us love or hatred" and I dug that same idea about this movie.

I do think the movie is very ambiguous about how we are to feel about chucking "Darwinism" out the window. Anyway I don't mean to challenge anyone too hard but I feel like this stuff is more and better thought through than many are assuming.

I mean she even says "we were wrong, we were SO wrong"

^^ most otm line, which is why it was in the trailer and a harbinger of things to come

I'm not going to talk about Alien on this thread because it'll just devolve into me explaining how Alien is better than Aliens by a fair bit

I want Prometheus 2 by a French director who complies with the classic French sci-fi tropes of fart jokes and goofy body gross-out humor.

Ha!

I was also reminded of a bit from tarkovsky's "Solaris" along the lines of "man needs man"--meaning our search into the cosmos is merely looking for ourselves. Kinda loved how that plays out in this movie.

Again don't wanna suggest this is tarkovsky--just thought it was pretty cool and not getting a fair shake.

not sure if this is where you are going w/ this ryan but I wrote about the vaguely kubrickian feel I got from prometheus on my own blog aka ned's FB page. not to say it's in any way comparable quality-wise to a kubrick film, but that it shared kubrick's chilly disinterest in the fate and well-being of his characters.

lol tarkovsky xp

i'll toss my hat in the ring and say i totally dug this movie. not a perfect film by any means, but pretty shocked to see such a negative reaction online. it was simply gorgeous, for one thing; also, that perpetua essay seems waaaay off the mark considering what a quasi-prequel this is

being gorgeous without substance is a surefire way to ensure a negative reaction tho

except tons and tons and tons of people loved Avatar

I think you're right there, though it's something I've never understood. I like things that are gorgeous, irrespective of substance.