They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

Do androids dream of electric sheep? Why does David play basketball? Why does he dye his hair?

xpost Sure. There are any number of avenues not explored in this film. It actually surprises me, given that Fassbinder and Theron are the only two actual movie stars in this thing, that they were not the clear stars and focus of the film, especially curious considering Theron is used so poorly/pointlessly and dispatched so quickly.

They never show Theron sick after waking up, do they? Noomi is barfing up a lung, the rest are instructed to drink a lot of fluids. But Theron is up, immediately doing push-ups...

I just thought that implied that she'd been through the process before

There's a lot "implied" in this film. One could say, too much implied.

They should have called it "...Prometheus ..."

I am amused you think the push-ups strengthens your case! Vickers is far more likely to have done space travel before though.

only actual stars aside from Guy Pearce and Idris Elba?

Noomi is on the ascent to being a big name.

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIII.

There was a v good documentary about the Antikythera mechanism on BBC4 a week ago or so, might still be on iPlayer.

xpost Guy Pearce and Idris Elba aren't movie stars, dude. You should really take a glance at their filmographies some time. Noomi is barely a rising star. The other losers in this film ... nice knowing you. Fassbender and Theron are miles above the rest in status and appeal.

I wasn't making a case that Theron was an android, just that there are plenty of hints that she could be, not least Idris asking her "are you an android?" a question she does not directly answer.

Okay you are actually crazy, Guy Pearce's star >>> anyone else involved in this.

Honestly, how do you figure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Pearce#Filmography

Did you see Lockout three months ago? Did anyone?

Well I grant it's nothing on the scale of Jonah Hex / Jane Eyre / Shame...

I'd just like to know what you think makes Pearce a star. Fassbender may eventually meet the same fate, of course - this could be his LA Confidential, Memento streak - but Pearce is pretty much just a character actor these days.

fassbender's obv more of a star right now but he only got to this level in the last year or so, right?

theron's android/not-android status seems to be another thing they wussed out of

Fassbender's big break was ... Hunger? Fish Tank? That was maybe four years ago. Then Inglorious Basterds helped break him out, and X-Men introduced him to a wider audience.

Fassbender is famous but not A-list, same with Guy Pierce. Theron is so clearly the A-list movie star in this movie! so it was kind of funny that she didn't do all kinds of fancy acrobatic moves followed by luminous close-ups of her face

Ah, I was genuinely wondering if you were unaware of Memento / LA Confidential. Due to them, he is a star - that is non-revokable. If you mean some sort of hotness then maaybe, but I think that's more that a few Fassbender films have been released in a rush than anything else.

Did you see Lockout three months ago? Did anyone?

More people than saw Shame! Tho not as much as Haywire, admittedly.

xp no dude, after Basterds he's still pissing about in Jane Hex / Jonah Ayre / Centurion.

i love him and he's def famous, but Fassbender has a creepy chameleon (actor!) thing going on in a lot of the films he's in, whether he's wearing face-altering make-up or not, that keeps his stardom more low-key imo

He has not stopped reminding me of Ewan McGregor, is my problem with him.

it's the way their lips move

and the steely-provocative eye thing

e.mcgregor had the chameleon thing going on as well

w/both fassbender and mcgregor, you get this thing where even though you've seen them in multiple films and indeed in photoshoots out of character, you're still...not quite...sure...what they actually look like

it's true!

But whatever they look like, they have a very charming smile.

no dude, after Basterds he's still pissing about in Jane Hex / Jonah Ayre / Centurion.

Eh, clearly these were in the can already. We'll see where his career winds up, but Pearce had his run. Just because he's recognizable doesn't mean he's a star, much as I usually like him. Regardless,

Theron is so clearly the A-list movie star in this movie!

Fassbender's next film, btw, is also with Ridley Scott, with an original script by Cormac McCarthy. After that he's apparently back with McQueen for round three.

I've read a few Fassbender interviews (after lingering around airports and newsstands over the last couple weeks) and the interviewers in mainstream magazines, especially the men's magazines where he's on the cover, are pretty horrible. It's like a quick nod to Hunger, acknowledgment of his mainstream US roles, talking about BIG SUMMER BLOCKBUSTER role in Prometheus ("what is it like working with Ridley Scott?!?") and then jokes about Shame that nearly always take the form of "So, a lot of people have been making dick jokes about your work in that movie, but, haha, we don't make dick jokes in this interview! So, I hear you have a large penis."

not a bad life all in all

idk, if I was a serious actor I'd get tired of dick jokes

actually, that was probably his internal motivation for the smiling sneer he used in Prometheus

"I'm doing all this acting, here, and interviewers are just going to ask me about nudity"

yeah, Shame was a pretty ridiculous movie though

I thought it was pretty great! I only saw it in the theater, though.

I am imagining the interviewers doing the funny-into-serious face of Sasha Baron-Cohen.

priority one

insure return of organism

for analysis

ha, never noticed the word use error before

maybe they were planning to take out some sort of xenomorph policy

heh

Or then again, maybe Ridley just wanted to reference 80s biker-noise band the Head of David at the end?

― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:33 AM (5 hours ago)

lol

have we talked about the coors light/promotheus cross-promotion ads here? guess they've given up on the prestige/quality image now that people have seen the movie.

so I have a t-shirt with big cooper black letters that says "Language is just math that's hard for engineers to do" - if I got another one that said "science fiction wishes it came up with the antikythera mechanism," which t-shirt would be the best

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Antikythera Mechanism device shirt of course.

BTW, hello Tomboto! Was wondering what you take on this would be.

The Antikythera Mechanism device shirt of course.

Put the slogan on the back, put a photo of the reconstruction on the front.

saw a pretty good nerd shirt yesterday, it said

i^2 keep it real

have we talked about the coors light/promotheus cross-promotion ads here?

I think robyn was the victim of a stealth Prometheus promo during Mutek

i^2 keep it real

dying

omg maybe i was! i srsly almost said no, no coors light for me, but i was thirsty...

Because I know you were all waiting for it, Andrew Sullivan is seeing this tonight. (He says he finds Alien to be clearly superior to Aliens.)

is there a franchise out there that varies as wildly in tone from movie to movie as the alien movies?

I'm sure Vivid Video has something.

isn't that a pr0n company?!?

is there a franchise out there that varies as wildly in tone from movie to movie as the alien movies?

I'm pretty sure Vivid's tone remains pretty consistent from franchise to franchise.