They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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I laughed once, and then the rest was sort of sighing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

During the scene in the auto-doc, yes

Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

actually I think I meant metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

hey guys they just released a new prometheus trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EzAFhclpVI

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

were you guys really laughing hysterically at this movie

― Number None, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:35 PM (20 minutes ago)

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D

I saw this and "Spacehunter" in the theaters, in 3D.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

parasite is charles band's 3D masterpiece, metalstorm was truly a step down for him

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

nothing better than the pipe gag in parasite imo

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

we have now appropriately calibrated the discussion for the remainder of this thread

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

haha i totally laughed out loud
i laughed spontaneously (as opposed to wryly or knowingly or whatever) a few times

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

I didn't laugh, but I did sit there thinking to myself, "Say it . . . say 'father' . . . he's your father . . . everyone has guessed already . . . JUST SAY IT FOR GOD'S SAKE ALREADY."

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

"What if your creator told you the same thing?"
"That'd be disappointing!"
David glares

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

I was assuming he was her old lover

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Weyland: "He's the closest thing to a son I'll ever have!"

CUT TO CHARLIZE GLARING

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

Really enjoyed watching this although there is just so much wrong with it, I think I had to admit to myself this was going to be a pile of Lindeloffal the first time someone said 'this is what I CHOOSE to believe', arg gtfo

kinder, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

enjoyed my prometheus experience. It was shiny. Def laughed at goofy scripting- mostly affectionately so. Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.

there were some lovely mysteries but mostly a lot of questions around how it was possible for these people to get food into their mouths and remember to breathe, much less run vast corporations and run science expeditions across the universe.

most things can be blamed on the script, but a lot can definitely be blamed on the editing, if not the direction. multiple subplots could have been eliminated or tweaked just enough to not be flapping around like vestigial appendages.

didn't sweat the science and enjoyed not having any clear answers, knowing that the idiot humans could be very wrong about most of their assumptions. I hear walt is scheduled to come back in Prometheus cubed

gonna watch it again on IMAX 3D

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.

Earth, iirc

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm a space biologist. I didn't sign up on this mission to an alien planet just to investigate the bodies of an alien race. My main motiovation for my sudden disinterest is that I think the space geoplogist is cool and I'm going to follow him around and be his buddy."

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm a space geologist with advanced mapping technologies, but I got lost because no one thought to put an app on my iphone."

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Is Charles Band still alive? I need him to make a quickie ripoff of this.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

"I found hueg film moronic, but must watch it again but bigger while arty sinny die"

DEFINITELY quitting film criticism

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

It's the surest way to start enjoying movies again.

The Eric and Re Show (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

and fill up your days w/ poles & liszts

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

there's a whole world out there

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

where people do none of these things

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

other than watch good films and enjoy them

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

and discuss them with friends over well-made cocktails, or around a warm hearth

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

while dying their roots blond, quoting lawrence of arabia

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Critics are afraid of talking about movies IRL with IRL people.

The Eric and Re Show (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

and getting some fools killed

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE WATCH ONLY GOOD MOVIES AND ENJOY THEM ...

the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

scans from the "art of" book

http://prometheusfrance.forumdefans.com/t36-le-livre-officiel-informations-officielles

Check out this intrepid little guy

http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/16/22/94/10/p19210.jpg

Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

ONE BITTER FILM CRITIC WAS DAYS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

that jogging alien is the dumbest looking thing

the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

from GIS of "dumbest looking thing"

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/ucsb/graphics/auto/olepromo.jpg

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

microsoft introduces its new virtual concierge for windows 8, squishy the spermicle

http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/16/22/94/10/p19210.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

that alien is dumber than that dumbest thing

the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

To be fair, if you just looked at the art book pictures without understanding the French text you could probably put together a pretty terrific narrative that's far better than the movie.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

xxxposts jon I can confirm Charles Band is still very much alive - he runs a little studio called Full Moon Pictures and is currently in production on Zombies Vs Strippers :D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone seen his rubber suit monster movies? are those any fun?

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

More book tidbits/photos/background stories:

http://io9.com/5917639/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-design-of-prometheus

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

This review piles it on, but this part nails my dislike...

As in any Ridley Scott attempt to grapple with “big themes,” the ideas in Prometheus get handled with utter heavy-handedness in those few moments where they aren’t being ignored entirely in favor of empty bombast. Take the “questions of faith” Scott boldly explores here. Elizabeth, shown to be religious from childhood in a dreamscape flashback, and Charlie, who bears a cross tattoo on his arm, are the film’s standard-bearers for belief; they’re convinced their quest will lead to final answers. On the opposite side are the ship’s pragmatic, universe-weary captain Janek (Idris Elba), stern Weiland representative Meredith (Charlize Theron), and geologist Fifield (Sean Harris), all of whom seem far less concerned with the identity of their creator than making money and continuing to live. Somewhere in the middle is the ship’s android steward David (Michael Fassbender, providing the film’s only true signs of life); his motives in relation to the overall mission are opaque, but he does take any chance he can to remind the humans of his own created-ness at the hands of man. This confluence of characters should be the basis for some meaty narrative conflict, but you won’t learn much more about Sir Ridley’s thoughts on these weighty matters beyond the brief description I’ve just provided. Why explore the elements of your films, when it’s just so easy to merely introduce lots of stuff and hope that audiences will do the work for you?

Though science fiction often seems uniquely positioned to ponder the most massive of ontological questions, one can forgive when well-crafted futuristic fictions skimp on the thematic heft; Alien is remarkable for just how little it seemed to care about anything beyond great scares and thrills. It didn’t try to be 2001, unlike its new prequel. However, the real problem with Prometheus isn’t that its pretension can’t masks its ultimate empty-headedness; it’s that on a very basic level the movie just doesn’t really make any sense. (Not to mention that its creation myth completely contradicts everything we learned about our prehistory from Alien vs. Predator!) Plot threads begin, but are never resolved. Others happen in inexplicable vacuums: Elizabeth, accidentally impregnated with alien DNA, aborts the deadly fetus with the help of some kind of surgery machine pod, yet somehow no one else on the ship seems to know or hear anything about it. Major events are completely unlinked from consequence or are raised and resolved with impressive velocity: when Charlie, infected by the same DNA, is torched to death a few scenes later by a flamethrower wielding Meredith, the rest of the team reacts with little more than a “whatevs.” Others simply baffle: when the remaining members of the group find Powder’s similarly albino cousin and wake him from his eons-long slumber, what does the creature do but immediately recommence the mission to destroy all life on Earth that was begun thousands of years prior? Couldn’t this highly advanced race of beings just have sent another ship and killed off the human race at any time? Why wait until a bunch of knuckle-dragging cave dwellers learned the art of interstellar travel and came to find their “engineers” (the film’s ridiculous parlance, not mine)? This list could easily extend. It’s fine for movies to be simple of mind, but it’s unacceptable for them to treat their audiences as if they are as well.

Roger Ebert argued in his wildly positive review of Prometheus that it is “all the more intriguing because it raises questions about the origin of human life and doesn’t have the answers.” This is a quite stupid thing to say in relation to a film like Prometheus for any number of reasons, not least of which is that it is clearly a film so utterly underconceived that it couldn’t even be said to be actively withholding the answers it obnoxiously never provides. It’s a lovely thing to look at—a feast of silvery grays and murky browns—but Scott’s been the master of lushly brainless imagery since at least as far back as 1492: Conquest of Paradise. Why do we exist? Prometheus will never tell—it’s not even curious enough to guess.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

tbh would totally watch a series of webisodes featuring widdlest xenomorph just checkin things out

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

(xpost)

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

people on facebook/twitter/here keep posting about people complaining about this movie while not seeing "good movies"/artsy independent films - if you can recommend any good smaller/obscure movies that are out right now, please feel free to do so, because all the ones i read about sound shitty

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

like i guess i should have spent my $11 on quirky indie romcom lola versus? or quirky indie rom com safety not guaranteed?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

stern Weiland representative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzVgIop0f0Y

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

like i guess i should have spent my $11 on quirky indie romcom lola versus? or quirky indie rom com safety not guaranteed?

Bernie was funny

I bet the new Cronenberg is worth seeing

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

is that the weekend at bernie's prequel

the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link


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