They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

That would have been something.

that's what i heard

Would have been cooler if they had cast an actual old guy like Ernest Borgnine or something, it's not like you ever saw him young except in that dumb viral

I like that the android is the only person in the film who seems to have any grasp on existential or philosophical questions.

Kind of hope he told the alien "pretend to kill me, I'll survive, but please waste these noobs"

well, he is essentially existential!

lol those noobs so deserved wasting

- What the hell is that giant fossilised thing in the chair? Why is this never answered?

Doesn't matter, but the crew sure wonders.

- How come all those eggs were just sitting around in that chamber? You're telling me they were waiting for that crew to come along? How does that work?

That's what eggs do! But who laid the eggs?

- Why didn't the crew run after the chestburster straight away? They've seen what it can do, and yet they all just stand there. Talk about stupid.

They were all in shock that a mean alien lizard creature burst out of their friend's chest.

- How did the facehugger get onto Kane's face? He was wearing a helmet. Surely if it used acid that would have burned Kane's face.

Surely a parasite like that knows how to use acid judiciously.

-How the hell does the creature grow to a full adult in, what, a day? Stupid writing.

It molted, dude.

- Why did Ash not do a better job of hiding the info on the computer?

He wasn't devious, he was programmed.

- What are the creatures? Where do they come from? How were the eggs made? What is their relation to the dude in the chair? We're never told

Good thing it doesn't matter, since more or less as soon as we're introduced to them the crew is being attacked and running around and stuff.

Again, lack of "Alien" philosophy justifies any "we may never know" hanging threads. But the whole point of "Prometheus" is about people searching for answers, which sort of puts the burden on the film to, you know, at least answer a little. Especially since it gives us that audience-perspective prologue which the answer-seekers have no idea about.

Lindelof, by the way, could answer everything, but he has such respect for the audience he wants to make you think.*

*While he brainstorms bullshit answers to "reveal" on the future DVD interview features.

Mysteries in Alien aren't actually material to the story; they provide a sense of wonder and horror

"mysteries" in Prometheus are just things the screenwriters didn't think through and are an integral part of the story

- Why didn't the crew run after the chestburster straight away? They've seen what it can do, and yet they all just stand there. Talk about stupid.

They were all in shock that a mean alien lizard creature burst out of their friend's chest.

Not to mention they know that its previous form had acid for blood and was extremely aggressive, and Parker's immediate idea seems to be "stab it," as he brandishes a knife. Ulterior motives aside, Ash quite sensibly yells, "Don't touch it!"

Sensibly, and with a motivation that becomes clear later

That one moment alone is way smarter than anything in P-dog

Which is why I've said a little bit of David motivation would have gone a long way.

it wasn't a lizard it was a fetus worm don't get it twisted

don't get it twisted around your arm that's for sure

~fouls suffered~

ah, just pretend that belongs here

~fools suffered through prometheus~

haha

you know my favorite thing about Aliens that i forgot about is how everyone who works for the corporation wears sport jackets with a popped collar. so awesome. it's like "douche alert"

;)

tbh the motivation for shit looking really cool never needs to be any deeper than "this giant dead alien thing will be in this room and look really cool" and there is mystery built in

why is there a giant face on the wall? because it looks cool

anyone else notice there was a giant face on the canyon wall, too, Mt. Rushmore-style? these alien dudes really like their faces

with a dash of tabasco

wouldve been cool if one of the big faces was like a Neverevending Story type monster who talked and answered all the plot holes in the movie

if the film was straight up until that point & then the eyes blink open and this grumpy face croaks up, my heart wld have soared

^^ otm

heh

if you are still quibbling with a single aspect of the failed 'world-building' in the script, instead of just laughing hysterically -- I don't get it! the film has idiot-proofed itself, you are wasting your time calling it silly

― Milton Parker, Monday, June 11, 2012 7:32 PM (Yesterday)

otm

in fact when they landed on the planet, found the landing strip, and entered the engineer's lair in a matter of minutes I thought, "this movie appears to be operating at the intellectual level of mutant aka forbidden world", and just went with it from there. brain off, enjoy visuals. perhaps this represents some reprehensible forfeiture of my role as a critical viewer but eh.

someone comparing this to Forbidden World is actually the first thing that's made me want to see it

I think he meant, "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone."

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/spacehunter-200x200.jpg

were you guys really laughing hysterically at this movie

I laughed once, and then the rest was sort of sighing.

During the scene in the auto-doc, yes

actually I think I meant metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D

hey guys they just released a new prometheus trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EzAFhclpVI

were you guys really laughing hysterically at this movie

― Number None, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:35 PM (20 minutes ago)

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D

I saw this and "Spacehunter" in the theaters, in 3D.

parasite is charles band's 3D masterpiece, metalstorm was truly a step down for him

nothing better than the pipe gag in parasite imo

we have now appropriately calibrated the discussion for the remainder of this thread

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

haha i totally laughed out loud
i laughed spontaneously (as opposed to wryly or knowingly or whatever) a few times

well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene

I didn't laugh, but I did sit there thinking to myself, "Say it . . . say 'father' . . . he's your father . . . everyone has guessed already . . . JUST SAY IT FOR GOD'S SAKE ALREADY."

"What if your creator told you the same thing?"
"That'd be disappointing!"
David glares

I was assuming he was her old lover

Weyland: "He's the closest thing to a son I'll ever have!"

CUT TO CHARLIZE GLARING

Really enjoyed watching this although there is just so much wrong with it, I think I had to admit to myself this was going to be a pile of Lindeloffal the first time someone said 'this is what I CHOOSE to believe', arg gtfo

enjoyed my prometheus experience. It was shiny. Def laughed at goofy scripting- mostly affectionately so. Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.

there were some lovely mysteries but mostly a lot of questions around how it was possible for these people to get food into their mouths and remember to breathe, much less run vast corporations and run science expeditions across the universe.

most things can be blamed on the script, but a lot can definitely be blamed on the editing, if not the direction. multiple subplots could have been eliminated or tweaked just enough to not be flapping around like vestigial appendages.

didn't sweat the science and enjoyed not having any clear answers, knowing that the idiot humans could be very wrong about most of their assumptions. I hear walt is scheduled to come back in Prometheus cubed

gonna watch it again on IMAX 3D

Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.

Earth, iirc

"I'm a space biologist. I didn't sign up on this mission to an alien planet just to investigate the bodies of an alien race. My main motiovation for my sudden disinterest is that I think the space geoplogist is cool and I'm going to follow him around and be his buddy."

"I'm a space geologist with advanced mapping technologies, but I got lost because no one thought to put an app on my iphone."

Is Charles Band still alive? I need him to make a quickie ripoff of this.