They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

i hated how he got all smirky and smart alecky at the end "hope it all came out okay OOPS POOR CHOICE OF WORDS ;)"

the worst thing about the space jockey was the reveal that he didnt actually have a cool space elephant head, it was just a dumb helmet. but i did like the concept of the big reveal of the space jockey being the equivalent of them walking in on god smoking a bong... god wakes up and finds out he has some kids he didn't know about, and pretends he doesnt know them

"father... my maker... how do i become immortal???"
"uhh, who are you again?"

agh
yet i couldn't even hate him though or really feel anything about him except 'wow, bad writing/execution of plot'
the old movies and hair dying and accent doing though and dream invading, good. red-laser droids, good. surgery chamber, yes. the rest, transparently manipulative, pointless.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=prometheus_nutshell

I weirdly didn't mind the reveal of the aliens being flute-playing marble statues. Maybe I'm getting old and softheaded, IDK.

I hated the stupid characters though.

some excellent points there. xp

Oh yeah the Christian shit was pretty unforgiveable

it's the whole movie man. the last line is "this is dr. shaw in the year of OUR LORD 2193..." before she goes off to certain doom in order to redeem humanity

did someone post that interview where ridley scott is like the whole reason the engineers hate us is because we killed jeezo

god decides to annihilate earth cuz hes tired of paying child support

the whole basic premise of the movie is so poorly explained, it's like a video game plot. so the engineers created us for some reason... and then something something they got mad, now they hate us... so they left cave paintings.. so we'd come visit them after their own weapons destroyed them... oh well we'll explain it in the sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

lol that's good.

"why did the aliens leave star maps behind that just led to their weapons research facility?"

That video was perfect

yes i feel more at peace after watching it haha

"is david a secret asshole"

that guy should be making major cash as a story editor

The fact that lindelo gets hired to write major blockbusters and this guy's relegated to making internet vids =proof that god is a cruel ringmaster

That should have been the subtitle to Prometheus, actually

*crul

Haaaaa

Money quote from the Red Letter Media review:

"In regard to the hate for this movie: If you're one of those people who gets that upset over this movie, then you should probably stop watching movies altogether. In a world of 'Jack and Jill's, and 'What to expect when you're expecting's and movies like that, an ambitious but incredibly flawed sci-fi film, if that's what gets you horribly upset, then there's no hope for you."

Then they clarify that by saying " Slight disappointment (we) can understand, but not "this is the worst movie ever""

It's not the worst movie ever by any means. It's not even 'bad', because there are, as mentioned, too many technically good things about it for it to be outright bad. It's just fucking stupid, and it's fucking stupid because of Lindeloff, I'd wager.

What has Lindeloff done right that inspires people to keep hiring him?

"In regard to the hate for this movie: If you're one of those people who gets that upset over this movie, then you should probably stop watching movies altogether. In a world of 'Jack and Jill's, and 'What to expect when you're expecting's and movies like that, an ambitious but incredibly flawed sci-fi film, if that's what gets you horribly upset, then there's no hope for you."

Jack and Jill is a litterbox full of cat shit. Prometheus is a nice bowl of ice cream with a few cat turds in it. I tolerate a litterbox full of cat shit in my house but cat turds in my ice cream would be a deal-breaker.

I'm kind of curious about Cowboys & Aliens now - I assumed that it was a dumb actioner with Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford - is there a twist where the aliens are mistaken space Jesuses or something?

Nah they're just grasshopper-looking critters mining for gold

What has Lindeloff done right that inspires people to keep hiring him?

― Peaceniks, Homos, and Potheads Who Wear Ties (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 09:03 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

made an incredibly popular and influential tv show that millions of people watched and some of them even appear to be well adjusted human beings and will defend it if it comes up in conversation

i really want to see this movie so i can come up with a contrarian defense of it

Devin at BadAssDigest made the joke that the World War Z movie is in such a bad state now they brought in Lendelof to rewrite _the ending_

made an incredibly popular and influential tv show that millions of people watched and some of them even appear to be well adjusted human beings and will defend it if it comes up in conversation

Crossing Jordan? Nash Bridges?

i don't follow yr argument

I guess I'm kind of amazed anyone hires the guy after Lost fell apart so drastically.

otm about zombies. Too many zombies. Quit it already!

So it looks like Lindeloff is responding to some of Red Letter Media's questions on Twitter right now..

No, he's saying he *can* answer them without doing so. Which is pretty much what he does.

7h Damon Lindelof ‏@DamonLindelof
I can answer at least four of these questions. http://youtu.be/-x1YuvUQFJ0 #Genius

4 of the 55 or so put forth. thanks, damon.

It is possible that he is pointing out that even Damon Lindelof, who we would naturally turn to for answers, is no wiser than us - gently reproving us for fixating on external wisdom rather than fully inhabiting the question.

WE ARE ALL 'LOST'

And then his chest bursts open.

thoughts on this, after dodging this thread for SO LONG because I didn't want spoilers, and then I just didn't want to engage with it for a few days:

- Am I insane, or was Ridley Scott once a lot more critical than he now is? The set design and everything is nice, but the interviews with other people in the extra material from Alien and Blade Runner led me to believe he'd challenge the writers or crew or know when to make compromises to make a better film. Maybe I am giving the dude too much credit.

- The state of Hollywood screenwriting is shit. The entire "get one dude to give you a script with crazy ideas, then pass it to someone else to punch it up" school is total horseshit, or at least the bane of modern scriptwriting. I know this was the case with Alien, but I feel like it was more collaborative. I keep coming back to the fact that unexplained things (Space Jockey!) or hints at the nature of the characters outside the film is welcome, but modern script doctoring and shit editing has led to this point where ideas from different revisions of the script are thrown in and DO NOTHING BUT DILUTE THE FILM.

Shaw's family flashbacks? Who gives a fuck? The android can watch your dreams? Do something with that instead of a tossed-off line! You figured out having direct Jesus references was maybe bad? Excise that shit from the script completely! The "oh they were coming to kill us 2000 years ago" shit should have been changed to some other non-Jesusy number. This western/Christian-centric horseshit is embarrassing in 2012 in a film that reaches at more than human history, so stfu screenwriters.

I blame Lindelof for nothing, directly, because Scott was the one who filmed the script. The best lines, including the Lawrence of Arabia homage, were in the trailer. The "a king has his reign.." speech was cheesy but Charlize Theron pulled it off!

Oh yeah, and wtf is with "You should keep going, what would <weak husband character> have wanted you to do?" was such bullshit. Like a woman can't have her own motivations without being inspired by dead dude who was relatively uninspiring?

Movie would have been better if she yelled "GIVE ME A SPACE ABORTION, NOW!" at the machine btw

btw I'm totally going to go watch this again because it was pretty and because I liked the android and Noomi Rapace running around in her underwear

and because I am a horrible human being

heroic effort to find meaning http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

btw I actually really enjoyed the fact that Weyland has this huge sense of self importance, has made all these great things, and the engineer dude just rips off his prized creation's head and clubs him to death with it.

that was good, i will agree

i really think Noomi's whole character and look were wrong/off, except for the part where she ran around in bloody bandages, of course

Some questions:

- What the hell is that giant fossilised thing in the chair? Why is this never answered?

- How come all those eggs were just sitting around in that chamber? You're telling me they were waiting for that crew to come along? How does that work?

- Why didn't the crew run after the chestburster straight away? They've seen what it can do, and yet they all just stand there. Talk about stupid.

- How did the facehugger get onto Kane's face? He was wearing a helmet. Surely if it used acid that would have burned Kane's face.

-How the hell does the creature grow to a full adult in, what, a day? Stupid writing.

- Why did Ash not do a better job of hiding the info on the computer?

- What are the creatures? Where do they come from? How were the eggs made? What is their relation to the dude in the chair? We're never told

I mean all this is just sloppy writing. I guess we're going to have to wait till some hypothetical sequels to find out the answers to this stuff?