They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

more like origin of the feces amirite

hahahaa that is the best

I liked this film - I guess I managed to ignore the slightly sketchy stuff. The thing that struck me the most is how clearly it illustrates how people's interaction with computers has changed in the last thirty years or so. In Prometheus (apparently before Alien), computers are everywhere for people to call up at any point they like and do pretty much anything with. In Alien, the spaceship appears to be entirely controlled by what looks a bit like an Apple 2, and only whoever's in charge has any access to it as it's stored in locked room, surrounded by mysterious blinking lights.

I briefly thought about this at the time, but then I considered: maybe the Nostromo was launched on its original mission many, many years before Prometheus.

Also, you dudes that made fun of the flute, did you realize that that's another cop from Herzog's "Cave of Forgotten Dreams?" The first is the cave paintings, obviously, but there's a part in the Herzog doc where some dude explains the universality of the flute in ancient cultures, and whittles some primitive flute out of a stick to demonstrate. Clearly that's what "Prometheus" was going for/borrowing from.

(The flute was still Zelda-stupid.)

Food for thought:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCBBDV2Tzk

http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2011/flute-of-forgotten-dreams/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090624-bone-flute-oldest-instrument.html

I briefly thought about this at the time, but then I considered: maybe the Nostromo was launched on its original mission many, many years before Prometheus.

nah, the crew of the nostromo are clearly used to what they do: going out and coming back, rinse and repeat. they can't be sleeping too long on each leg, or their contracts wouldn't be worth anything on return, companies and even systems of government would have risen and fallen "overnight". i suppose they could have been diverted a few decades off course, but there's nothing in the original film to suggest that this is the case. they seem to have been awakened early, not late.

xp yeah it's amazing the countless ways in which the flute has been incorporated into modern, technological society. can't imagine getting through the day without tootling one.

The skin flute, maybe.

Zing!

Ah, nerds on it already:

http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/1112/alienprometheus-timelines/p1

I think I might go back for a re-watch this weekend. I can't get the visuals out of my head. It's deeply flawed but if it looks as good on second viewing as I remember it, then I'll take it for what it is.

It does look as good, trust me. Arguably it looks even better, you kinda know where to draw your eye now.

Yeah I saw it first in IMAX 3D, second time in a run-down regular theater. It played better the second time, actually. My opinion of the film is basically the same: beautiful, entertaining, yet frustrating.

Fassbender owns the movie, IMO.

saw it again

there's way too much great stuff in this movie to quibble, and it makes a lot more sense than I thought it did the second time; I missed how the snakes evolved from the goo hitting the maggots. how could I have missed that? too busy laughing

can I just say that the eye worm wigged me the fuck out

can y'all summarize the reactions on this thread because i just saw this piece of shit and i want to see if any of you suckers fell for it

I resent films that are so shallow they rely entirely on their visual effects, and of course science fiction films are notorious for this. I've always felt that there's another way to do it: a lot of effort should be expended toward rendering the environment of the spaceship, or space travel, whatever the fantastic setting of your story should be–as convincingly as possible, but always in the background. That way the story and the characters emerge and they become more real.[16]

–Ron Cobb on his designs for Alien.

i don't even know where to start, the whole christian sci-fi thing, the uninteresting and frankly stupid characters, the fact that wherever the original movie(s) took interesting turns this thing went for the most boring clichés, THE FACT THAT THE SPACE JOCKEY IS JUST A BIG ANGRY BALD GUY

also like... so lead scientist lady and her (totally horrible, couldn't wait for him to die) boyfriend deduce from some cave paintings of a tall guy and stars that the stars are the home of humanity's creators (WHY), so they go there, they find this incredible archaeological ruin and actual BODIES of these creatures, the greatest most important find in human history, and they get all depressed because there was no one to talk to in the first building they went into?

if you had told me that the scifi flick of the year would be men in black 3 by a mile...

the scientists' obsession with talking to the aliums gets really annoying

i hate movies where the lead characters are really stupid and make the stupidest assumptions and then they turn out to be RIGHT

this movie is really everything that went wrong about LOST (dumb characters, lame christian-izing)

we are on the same side i am so glad seriously WTFFFF

i'm actually kind of angry at my friends right now for liking it. but they secretly know i'm right.

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW
on a cross around my neck please take care of it maybe it is aliens
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW
oh it's in my side pocket i kept it for you because

WHO CARES

if only this movie had just been fassbender-android and a ship and aliens

i hated how he got all smirky and smart alecky at the end "hope it all came out okay OOPS POOR CHOICE OF WORDS ;)"

the worst thing about the space jockey was the reveal that he didnt actually have a cool space elephant head, it was just a dumb helmet. but i did like the concept of the big reveal of the space jockey being the equivalent of them walking in on god smoking a bong... god wakes up and finds out he has some kids he didn't know about, and pretends he doesnt know them

"father... my maker... how do i become immortal???"
"uhh, who are you again?"

agh
yet i couldn't even hate him though or really feel anything about him except 'wow, bad writing/execution of plot'
the old movies and hair dying and accent doing though and dream invading, good. red-laser droids, good. surgery chamber, yes. the rest, transparently manipulative, pointless.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=prometheus_nutshell

I weirdly didn't mind the reveal of the aliens being flute-playing marble statues. Maybe I'm getting old and softheaded, IDK.

I hated the stupid characters though.

some excellent points there. xp

Oh yeah the Christian shit was pretty unforgiveable

it's the whole movie man. the last line is "this is dr. shaw in the year of OUR LORD 2193..." before she goes off to certain doom in order to redeem humanity

did someone post that interview where ridley scott is like the whole reason the engineers hate us is because we killed jeezo

god decides to annihilate earth cuz hes tired of paying child support

the whole basic premise of the movie is so poorly explained, it's like a video game plot. so the engineers created us for some reason... and then something something they got mad, now they hate us... so they left cave paintings.. so we'd come visit them after their own weapons destroyed them... oh well we'll explain it in the sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

lol that's good.

"why did the aliens leave star maps behind that just led to their weapons research facility?"

That video was perfect

yes i feel more at peace after watching it haha

"is david a secret asshole"

that guy should be making major cash as a story editor

The fact that lindelo gets hired to write major blockbusters and this guy's relegated to making internet vids =proof that god is a cruel ringmaster

That should have been the subtitle to Prometheus, actually

*crul

Haaaaa