i'd say a) beach house probably intended the homage to be a homage, and not a rip-off, b) p4k has had far more embarrassing things published on their website in the past, c) i don't know what they'd gain from purposefully ignoring ghostbusters, and d) editors at p4k probably do not get paid pretty well
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
i bet the editors live in lavish rat-infested shitholes and eat premium peanut butter
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
Breaking News: Beach House Rips Off Exploding Eggs Sequence From Ghostbusters"We tried to get the rights to just show a clip from the film, but we couldn't afford it. So we made our own," says Victoria Legrand
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
is this a srs debate? this p4k writer aside, people watching a beach house video have probably seen ghostbusters, because everyone has seen ghostbusters, and so it can be generally assumed on all sides that it's homage rather than rip-off, cuz who'd be idiotic enough to think you can rip off ghostbusters and get away with it. the same doesn't really apply to some big company 'paying homage' to moderately popular indie band beach house in their ads.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:11 (11 months ago) Permalink
A more appropriate comparison would be accusing VW of ripping off Benz for making a car containing a combustion engine
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:16 (11 months ago) Permalink
you can't make a beach house video w/o breaking eggs
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
Getting paid pretty well would be in relation to how well the writers are getting paid. I imagine that the editors at least are getting regular (albeit minor) paychecks.
But look, I didn't even pose anything as a debate. I just think that this being "news" at all is ridiculous and ironic but was not even trying to implicate the band. As stated, I am sure that they have reasonable opinions on all of these things.
The video removes all context from the borrowed scenes, as the add does to the original song. We can hypothetically assume that the audience of the VW adds is less aware of what they are watching/hearing than the viewers of the Beach House video. The band, Pitchfork, and VW are all pushing brands, or at least actively trying to get your attention, and in that light I just see that much difference between the two. This stuff is inherently problematic. I am sure if my band was getting homaged that heavily I would be somewhat upset, but maybe not so much if we were actively borrowing visually from really popular movies in our videos that were then getting broadcast on a really popular website.
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:29 (11 months ago) Permalink
Uhh, don't see that much difference is what I meant
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
I wanna give my testimony here. if somebody wanted to move this thread to '77 after I do, I wouldn't complain, but no big. In I think 2008, during a really pretty horrible period for me personally, some people got in touch with me asking me to sing & play a tune they had already written for a tv ad. The campaign was greenlit, somebody was going to sing this tune anyway and there was about two payments on the car in it for me, small money but still money. They sent me their demo of the song, and then we had a phone conversation about what they wanted.
They never explicitly said it, but it was very, very clear, both from the song itself & from the way they described what they wanted, was a song that sounded exactly like an indie artist who was & is a friend of mine & who'd recently come into considerable success. The song in question was a clear & obvious bite on this songwriter's style. I was to basically imitate my friend for money. I didn't do this; I found out they'd asked, like, half my friends for similar takes. I don't know who the person was that they ended up hiring, but when the ad aired half a year later, the singer they'd gotten was straight-up imitating my bud. Their whole approach was v. scummy & gross, from the "we've been fans forever" with lots of old-days reminiscences to their "you know what we mean" pitch. IOW what cantankerous indie ppl suspect & get aggro about in this shit is true. You can take their money or they'll pay somebody to bite your style. It's bullshit, imo.
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:25 PM
so u didn't do it, big whoop, here's yr medal. also why in the world would this thread "move to 77". get over yourself ffs
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
this record is nice!
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
take that shit to 77
― contenderizer, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
The larger point is that p4k tends to stack the decks towards their most favored artists in the most annoying and shameless way possible. (Note: this is not intended as criticism for those here who write for them)
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
Oh I forgot to add 'intentional or not' to the end of the first sentence.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
Pitchfork is shameless and annoying (not intended as criticism)
― brony ver (s1ocki), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
― ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
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― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
got no human grace
― ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:06 (10 months ago) Permalink
Probably not an original thought, but Beach House reminds me a lot of these guys
― Moodles, Friday, 10 August 2012 18:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
Has anybody seen them tour this record? How is it?
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 00:38 (7 months ago) Permalink
This has not stood the test of time with me sadly as I love Teen Dream and all their back catalog.
― marginal victory, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:21 (7 months ago) Permalink
The album faded fast for me, too, but they're touring behind a really great show. Good setlist, awesome light show, and they sound heavier and louder than you'd probably expect
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
I still love the album so I guess I should go see them.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
I saw them on Saturday in Toronto. They were terrific. Evan is right. They do sound heavier and louder than expected. They played five or six songs from Teen Dream and a handful from Devotion. And for me, Bloom hasn't faded. Still one of my favourite albums of the year.
― Binjominia, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:40 (7 months ago) Permalink
I wonder how much of this happens on a strictly regional level? I ask because there is a Gulf Coast casino currently running a TV ad soundtracked by a very faithful copping of the riff from The Black Keys' "Howlin' For You" (it's an even closer cop than the Pizza Hut "Gold On The Ceiling" ad in the above linked article).― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:01 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:45 (3 months ago) Permalink
cool, hope they lose
― am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:57 (3 months ago) Permalink