They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

What bugs me is that RIdley Scott MADE Alien

Yeah, but Ridley Scott didn't write Alien, or Prometheus.

hahaha DG

Ebert 4 stars, GK thinks it's the shit

This was very silly.

Saw this last night, really wasn't sure what to make of it. I've avoided reading reviews/this thread, so sorry if I'm trotting out recieved wisdom, but is the consensus that it's a pretty cool, if flawed, sci-fi flick that'd seem 'better' if it wasn't related to the Alien series in any way?

consensus is that it's a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

haha ledge, I've been tempted to type exactly that several times. Adding merely "(with Aliens)".

random bits:

"the DNA is identical!" - yes, that's why i'm 9ft tall with jet black eyes, did wonder

"they were going to destroy us and then they changed their mind" - dunno, baldie was well up for some genocide until captain stringer saved the day, and they would have done it as planned had they not all been killed by whatever enigmatic creature (convenient holo-CCTV doesn't record what it is eh) punched holes in their head. what could it be?????????

"i deserve an explanation" - probably not going to be much of a sequel if they visit the aliens and its 2 hours of "ask him about this" "klaatu barada blah blah"

music was hilariously bad. infected dude looks in mirror, sees something icky... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. "isn't that how your father died? ebola?" WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (i loled)

pro tip: when running from a big rolling thing, try to run perpendicular to it, you may not get squished

the security for the ships' control centre is a flute? a fucking flute? the melody conveniently played back for all to see? might as well get david to translate the glyphs and find out that there is a password, and it is 'password'

the medical pod is men only? not enough hard drive space for female anatomy? and yeah, as pretty much everyone can guess, you don't really get up to much after a c-section, certainly not doing action hero shit only to pause and go 'oooh' occasionally. i thought the whole sequence was pretty tame really, not even as graphic as that episode of house where he gets jacked up on morphine and tries to fix his leg

all the monsters are crap. especially the alien at the end. it looks like something from the worst of the dark horse comics. purple is just not your colour honey

people are raving about robofass but he's just data from star trek really. and he doesn't look like o'toole, he looks like olivier!

i'm definitely blaming Lindelof for the flute

ha this film wasn't nearly as good as event horizon, make of that what you will

― DG, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:20 (Yesterday) Permalink

EH was a much better idea.

ahhhhh omg i forgot about the fkn flute

whole film not dissimilar to some bullshit dungeon in zelda come to think of it

come now, there is a fine tradition of wind instruments in sci-fi.

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the 'engineers' look like right said fred so i suppose they should play a jam or two

I've just remembered one question I had that hasn't been asked yet. What was the purpose of the giant humanoid/engineer head in the chamber with all the jars (and as featured on the poster)?

Probably not important - all the characters in the movie ignore it too.

oh yeah and isn't there a blue glowing thing on a table? and i thought one of the crew looked at it all mysteriously and said "it's just another door" but i might have misheard.

to confirm 'identical' dna - "we're them and they're us" (erm) - and inadvertent comedy special effect xp

he says it's another tomb

oh sorry you mean the sculpture head - no fucking idea, presumably engineers just like the look of themselves

xp ok that makes fractionally more sense.

yeah they're pissed off there's nothing there apart from penis snake and richard fairbrass in a really bad mood

ok so does this movie actually feature the alien from the movie alien, y/n

n

maybe its great grandad twice removed

in a tacked on scene at the end

ehhhh i'll bet if there are sequels the crap alien at the end will be shown to be a mutant created by all the buggering about, or ignored entirely

something hunts the engineers, implants things in them and/or punches holes in their heads <- might be things in the proper alien films that do this iirc

Who is punching holes in whose head now?

damon lindelof / the audience

for giant head in Prometheus, see giant foot in Lost

I would recommend people to go see it EG cheap at the Prince Charles in 2D.

I would say the opposite (though it's definitely pricier)! See it at the BFI IMAX. It really does look amazing. I know all the people saying "it sucks but it looks great" is already tired, but it really is well put together - there's a really good mix of practical and CGI effects (where the CGI serves to support the practical stuff, rather than replace it); it's really well cut - you can actually follow the action in the busy scenes; some thought has gone into the 3D.

Don't get me wrong - this movie SUCKS, badly - but whereas so much of the big blockbuster stuff (not just Bay, but things like The Avengers, which is so overlit and flat and looks like a TV show) is so artless, it's kind of nice to see some big scale filmmaking. It's just unfortunately in the service of a really awful script.

I think there's probably a cut of this movie that could be made that removes all the tacked-on Lindeloftiness and results in a decent horror movie.

2 dimensions of shite is enough for me

i don't think you can remove lindelof from the film - he is the production equivalent of the penis snake

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That was an animated smoke monster from "Lost."

srsly disappointed in the Ebert review. Suggested rewrite:

Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" is a magnificent malodorous science-fiction film, all the more intriguing insipid because it raises (IDIOTIC AND POINTLESS) questions about the origin of human life and doesn't have the (WIT TO PROVIDE ANY INTERESTING) answers

really looking forward to the americans seeing this. we must have done about 300 posts at least slamming this crap - it'll be a bloodbath when they realise their god-king ebert is lying to them, it'll be like the end of the man who would be king

i don't think you can remove lindelof from the film

Which is funny, because you can see so vividly where he was ADDED to it. It's got the most visible rewrite seams of anything maybe ever! All the daddy issues/cheeseball faith vs. science spirituality stuff (stop trying to push this theme in sci fi!!!!!!!)... etc. etc...

Prepared to believe Scott had as much of a hand in that tawdry stuff, with his ridiculous Von Daniken namedropping.

My friend has a theory that a lot of sci fi and fantasy stuff push these religious themes because it's a CYA movie designed strictly to appeal to a broader audience. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas, though of course Christmas has no meaning in the story's context. If these stories are going to err on the side of "there is no God!" vs. "look, God!" it's pretty easy to guess which one will get the $250 mil bankroll.

enh - harry potter celebrates christmas because of a long history of HERE IS ALL THE FOOD scenes in british children's lit

doesn't 'life was seeded by space jockeys' err on the "there is no god" side of things

I'm also not that certain that the Harry Potter universe has strong views on the meaninglessness of Christmas!

All that matters is that it is there. It deflects the heretical magical elements by underscoring that, hey, Harry is Christian! (Not that that really worked, but still, maybe it worked for some)

I haven't seen this Alien movie yet, but like Harry Potter, I imagine as long as religion is in the mix somehow, it sates some of the faithful.

thank you all for saving me $10

Look, this film is flawed in many places, but it's great fun and great to look at and as long as you hang your anal coat up the door, there are japes to be had - okay?

My most grating problem was in the beginning scene where they find the cave paintings (on the Isle of Skye, lol), and the archaeologists are wearing clothes fresh for 2012 (Palestine scarves and that) even though it's supposed to be 2089.

Bad movies are their own animals. Often the films that actually bother me the most are the ones with potential that fall short for all sorts of reasons, and this sounds like one of them.

there has to be a German word that describes the creeping nightmare sensation one gets upon reading phrases like "hang your anal coat up at the door"

Metaphernenttäuschungsangst

you don't really have to be "anal" to be exasperated at the 2 hour stream of inept dumbfuck idiocy that flies at u face

i say this as a veteran of ilx

Palestine scarves are not exactly a new thing, mr latin.

i know, but the whole get up... it's like they went to Millets, and I understand they're tipping on the brink of administration these days...

I honestly noticed the same thing in that scene, palestine scarves and down jackets, was disappointed the filmmakers weren't aware of ultra thin down-free fabric tech already on the horizon. Much better than those anal coats too I hear.

at least we know in 2089 retro is still hip

are there no actors in hollywood sufficiently old to play an old man

"It's hard sci-fi"

http://io9.com/5916601/is-prometheus-anti+science-screenwriter-damon-lindelof-responds