they think they're in heaven
yeah i don't buy this, they may have been people of strong faith expecting to meet their makers but i would guess they were still pretty clear about this being an encounter on a real unknown alien world and not some airy fairy hippy dippy paradise.
It did, no? That's where they put the exploding head.
it didn't have its own airlock, hence the human torch act. not exactly self contained.
Because that part of the ship is actually to be Guy Pearce's, once he wakes up.
ok but then why not pack theron in with the rest of the crew? oh because they had to have some non-secret justification for having that module, grand piano et al. so needlessly complicated!
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
and you could say "people in movies they be stupid" but i'm sorry my anal standards of movie realism expect scientists on a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR mission to be slightly smarter than highschoolers on a weekend break.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps then you're seeing the wrong movies.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
this clearly has pretensions to be "smart" sci-fi though
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
if they start making the right ones i will watch them.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, there appears to be a religious component to this, and there's a lot of money to be found there. If someone was trying to raise funds for a mission to heaven, they'd get a trillion dollars pretty quickly. That's why cults exists.
(Religious component being the sole spoiler here that really has me understanding why so many are calling bullshit on this movie.)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
one trillion's not gonna be that much, by then. this is a shoestring operation by a crazy old guy. like how many mercenary geologists are there, anyway? I want to see that guy's papers.
― stet, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
was it ever explained why david infected the hot guy?
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
nope. i'm guessing that's one of the things they left open for the sequels i'm already hotly anticipating.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
You get the idea that this is the first-ever alien environment, and they're supposed to be hippy-dippy types off to meet their makers, no?
this is a shoestring operation by a crazy old guy
Those ideas don't quite add up though. Weyland Corp already has its 'Building Better Worlds' tagline and some of the Prometheus crew reference terraforming, as if people have gone to alien worlds many times already (though admittedly the idea that we'd be doing that by 2093 is optimistic at best).
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it was even left open for a sequel. I think they just came up with the idea for the surgery scene and had to shoehorn it in somehow
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
So his hybrid would impregnate Lisbeth with the rapid-growth jellyfish.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but why re: that as well then!
also after Shaw gave herself the C-section and stumbled around in her pants covered in blood and sweat why did no one think to, you know...ask her why? and did she just forget she left the alien thing hanging out on the surgery table?
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Forget it lex, it's Prometheus
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
She thought she'd killed it in the disinfectant process.
David's agenda was to find the elixir of life for pearce, I think. So he was trying out the goo (at the time they thought this was the seed for human life, I think) to see what happened. And if he died, no problem, because he was a douche to him anyway.
― stet, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sorry my anal standards of movie realism expect scientists on a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR mission to be slightly smarter than highschoolers on a weekend break.
I suffered similarly.
― Millsner, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
xpost to Lex: Because Fassbender saw Peter O'Toole do it in Lawrence of Arabia.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, all of the previous movies have "Let's interact with alien stuff" as a terrible idea followed by fules, I am not that bothered with this being the case here.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
they do at least take guns with them in the first two (tho obv give them up in the second one which is pretty dumb)
― DG, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
It's 2093 or whatever, by then "ONE TRILLION DOLLARS" will be delivered in a Mr Evil voice and your little pinky extended.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
Or even a Dr Evil voice.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
but cmere
Lisbet kicked the shit out of two crew members before being chased into the med chamber and locking them out.
She then did that thing, taking about ten minutes.
Then she wanders out covered in blood.
Then she's all just chillin with pilot, nbd, several ppl have died in a mutant melee on the deck, nbd, any news with yourself? Naaaw, nbd
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
robofass contaminates sciencedude for lulz and cos he doesn't like him. robofass seems to be relatively certain that this is not likely to be a benign act of human superpower elixir donation, so the 'trying it out for papa pearce' doesn't rly wash.
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
it seems like something that could pretty easily backfire against the whole mission, not just the crew but his own chances for survival & return to earth. but maybe his cold robot brain really doesn't care about even that.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
nah, doing it for the badness doesn't wash with getting him to say he'd do absolutely anything to find out the truth first
― stet, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, all of the previous movies have "Let's interact with alien stuff" as a terrible idea followed by fules
but the crew in Alien was a transport crew with zero knowledge of or even interest in aliens - which is presumably why they were selected by Evilcorp to stumble on it in the first place; they'd be dumb enough to break quarantine and let it on the ship
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
rly this had jumped the intergalactic shark before then tbh. the 'introduction to all our various scientists of differing lol personalities' scene could have come out of an 'alien movie' spoof
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
if idris and charlize get it on i'm back on board
― the late great, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
off screen, pretty ludicrously tbh
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
I was a bit weirded out that the operation involved cutting deep into someone and then just stapling up the top layer - I'm pretty sure that's not a good idea.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
as mentioned upthread she was doing pretty well with all the abdominal crunching so she must have been fiiiiiiiine.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
no it was sound, sure wasn't she jumping about the fucking place within ten minutes
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
whats ludicrous is that it's off screen amirite
― the late great, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
off to see this later, stoked for the opprobrium
meanwhile lindelof blabbers: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/prometheus-damon-lindelof-sequel-ridley-scott-paradise-332875
― DG, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
nahwhamsayyn
But ya charlize is crazy/hot in this
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
what's more ludicrous is that none of the other crew seemed to notice, let alone ask, about her condition. oh, and there was a presumed dead squid-foetus in the medbay. it seems like elba and his two no-name assistants on the bridge must have been busy playing parchesi all day, since they never bothered to keep up with goings-on aboard his ship. am I to believe there's no CCTV or warning systems monitoring everything that happens aboard?
― Millsner, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
charlize is crazy/hot in everything ... except monster where she's just crazy, i guess
― the late great, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
also hilarious was theron's hardass speech that begin the mission, since she had dick-all influence on the crew once they got beyond the "let's charge headfirst into an alien installation on a strange planet" phase. most of them seemed like they didn't even have any job to do other than wander and gape at strange stuff.
― Millsner, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
lol weren't you ever on a school tour
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
I did in fairness like Beardie Geologist's recognition of his fifth-wheelness.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
somebody spent a month recreating the trailer with paper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KIgNinx_G_U
― Darin, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
it could have been worse i suppose
Movies.com: You throw religion and spirituality into the equation for Prometheus, though, and it almost acts as a hand grenade. We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?RS: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.
RS: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
― fancy poodle (latebloomer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
paper preview is great. maybe i'll just watch it again and skip the film. ridley scott is a doofus.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Worse? That would've pushed it into the great beyond of awful. Too bad; could've been all time.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Would've loved to see them holographically recreate insanely muscled, big headed Jesus doing sermon on the mount.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
this was an inconsequential&confused hybrid of a v generic alien instalment & a half-arsed 2001-type anthropocentric bit of space pondering.
the anthropocentrism cld have made an interesting film - fassbender as smithers was probably the best thing in this, esp pottering about on his lonesome in space practising one-liners doing his hair - but the ideas behind all this were vapid, they were barely there; it was impossible to share the archaeologist's enthusiasm, it wld have been better if they were fans of the original alien film. yr sat in a cinema glazing over as ppl say MEET YR MAKER over&over, a completely underwhelming climax unfolds w/ the borderline unwatchable old man who wants to live forever, & you realise that charlize theron was totally pointless.
quite pleasant to watch tho, v pretty shiny tundra. wld have been better as an interstellar food poisoning film or something
― ogmor, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
^ the review that they don't want you to read
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
The theological component of this is giving me serious pause. I mean, I'm going to see it, but it looks like a $5 matinee, 2D special to me.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
xposts : wow! That was both the greatest and onliest paper trailer I've ever seen!
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link